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View attachment 612241 Had 3 hours to scrounge this afternoon in the timber. Here’s a pic of 1 of the 3 little stacks I got worked up before dark. 35 degrees, very damp, but no wind, so comfortable. This was a dead standing “phone pole” about 60’ tall. My guess is Red Elm, but I wouldn’t put a lot of money on that bet.
Is there a difference between Red Elm and Chinese elm?
 
Ps: I did some important research for you cowboy.

I had a go cutting the smaller branches 10 - 12” with the Dolmar which is very close to your ms460 and it’s nowhere near as nice to use for that purpose as the 50cc saw, plus the small saw is actually faster due to the chain speed.
My conclusion is (and already knew this anyway) you need sell your farm boss and get a ported ms261 from the states.;)
 
Yes. Red elm is different. Also there's Siberian elm and Chinese elm although some mistakenly lump Chinese and Siberian together
I looked them up. And now I have no idea what it is that I have. I was told it was Chinese Elm which I thought was the same as Red Elm but the bark on the stuff I have looks nothing like either of those. The heartwood is extremely red, really stringy wood and really heavy, and the bark comes together in edges.
 
Thanks Mike. I hated antler restrictions originally. We have been living with them for 12 or 15 years. They have produced many nice trophy size bucks where we used to get scrub fork horns and spikes. Honestly I like the antler restrictions. They did do heavy duty herd reduction so we have way less deer overall. This week I have done 6 days of hunting and saw 6 deer. They were not moving. So we gotta make the most of our opportunities. To be fair my buddy messed up on a 9pt and my dad missed a trophy size 8. Good luck Mike hope you are successful this year.

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Unfortunately, the success of such a program is dependent upon the others in the area. The mountain my property is on has numerous ATV/4WD roads and no full time residences. You NEVER see a deer when driving in or out ... that has to tell you something.

Also, it is a known fact that some of the farms down below (and some other cabins on the hill) bait the deer (illegal in NY), and some to the farms subsistence hunt year round. The mountain also gets it's share of Timber guys, and Bluestone guys, and I know too many stories of how they keep a 22 or 22 mag to dispatch what they see early in the morning.

The fact of the matter is that over the 30 + years I have owned the land, there are far fewer deer, and far fewer quality bucks harvested each year. It is very discouraging to see this happen when you have invested significant time and money into a hunting property.

I will also add that the deer hunting has always been tougher up there. Down here you spook a deer and it may return later the same day, or the next day. Up there, you spook a deer, and it may get out of Dodge for a week or two.

That said, some big ones always survive, and you always hope to get lucky enough to take one. Also, it is rifle country, which I can not use where I live (only shotgun or MZ). It is also rugged and beautiful country, so it is worth the trip even when you do not take anything.

In decades past, I was more likely to get a deer on my property than any place else. In recent years, getting a deer on my own property is the exception. Fortunately, I currently do have other decent places to hunt, but none are as assured as having your own property.

I will also add that the brush is so thick up there it is almost impossible to know how many legal points your deer has until you harvest it. I would be much happier if they stated 3 points or a 6" antler, or something like that. This rule handicaps the real woods hunter, as opposed to those who hunt in the farm fields.
 
I looked them up. And now I have no idea what it is that I have. I was told it was Chinese Elm which I thought was the same as Red Elm but the bark on the stuff I have looks nothing like either of those. The heartwood is extremely red, really stringy wood and really heavy, and the bark comes together in edges.
Post a pic. I'm betting it's Siberian
 
Thinking I'm going to call it quits on the hunting front tonight. Including a day of scouting before season I've seen 56 does/fawns and one buck (he was on a dead run through the brush) and have hunted 9.5 out of the first 10 days of season. Obviously the does and fawns are the same handful over and over again. It's strange to see so many does and no bucks especially when I watched several of them for extended periods while feeding in front of me.
 
same here steve ! the damned wolves are crazy here seen 3 deer all season with the one adult doe I took saturday afternoon. oldest son harvested 2 deer a nubbin buck and a yearling doe for our season. walk through the woods and the next day theres wolf tracks where you steped...
 
The Bluestone guys harvest the Bluestone from the quarries in the area. It is a big industry in the area, not many places you can get Blue Stone.

They generally start very early so they can get the harvested stone to the company before the close (and get paid for the stone before it gets stolen).

My cabin was built on an old Blue Stone quarry (was already cleared, and solid footing are right there).
 
7 does in backyard late yesterday. 2 this morning. Havent seen Methuselah in a couple months. Havent seen any bucks in several weeks. I let a friend hang a deer stand and he hasnt even hunted it. We had a pretty big dieoff this fall. Found one dead 100 yards from the house, been several confirmed dead deer found, some pretty close. Blue tongue, black tongue and rabies. I think I will wait until next year to fill the freezer.
 
Ps: I did some important research for you cowboy.

I had a go cutting the smaller branches 10 - 12” with the Dolmar which is very close to your ms460 and it’s nowhere near as nice to use for that purpose as the 50cc saw, plus the small saw is actually faster due to the chain speed.
My conclusion is (and already knew this anyway) you need sell your farm boss and get a ported ms261 from the states.;)
I agree but will add one more to-do for him;
Kill off all the scroungers with said small saws that seem to beat him to the wood, leaving him only the big stuff.

Aside, you could always put a higher pin-count rim on your dolly to increase chain speed in small wood. Only takes a minute.
 
Question for y'all. Do you guys hunt for sport, or to put put food on the table? I've never understood the use of tree stands. Why would a deer look up? They have no natural predators from above. Seems a bit unsportsmanlike, no? Now on the other hand if your family's hungry, you do what you got to do.
 

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