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Any body see the videos of using a bottle jack to fell a tree, especially back leaners? I was just watching a few. Cracks me up how they put a face cut in, make a back cut, then let a tree that is essentially cut off, sit on the stump, subject to wind and weight stress on the hinge, and start fiddling with plunge cuts. On every video I watched I could have thrown a throwing sack or johnny ball over the first limb, pulled a tag line through, and safely put the tree on the ground faster than they could monkeying around doing something dangerous. Then read all the "back slapping" replies how it was genius to do that. I'm sure there are times a jack would work, I've just never seen one, where a pro could do it better, safer another way. Maybe felling timber in the woods. One showed a "pro" service" limb the tree out and then goof around throwing the log. When the log hit the ground it knocked divots the size of a wheel barrow out of the customers lawn. With a climber in the tree, why wouldn't they just chunk it down, drop each block in the same spot under the tree. Then when you grind the stump, that one dent would be gone, no damage to the lawn. I guess that's why I seldom give advice here, I'd feel bad if someone got hurt trying to do something I've done for almost 50 years, with pro grade equipment and pro grade help. But, anyone can put a video on the web. Buyer beware.
 
Well I had big plans to get up early this morning and cut some birch that I found on the ground yesterday....went to bed with a slight headache and woke up at 2am with a pretty good headache. Took Aleve and the next thing I know, POOF it is 8 am. Funny thing is normally I am up by 6:30 and can't even fall asleep after that if I try.
 
Not necessarily, they charge less for folks who pay cash or do not have insurance.

We have a high deductible plan. My daughter needed stitches and they told us it would be $900 before insurance kicked in. We asked how much if we just paid cash on the spot. $180 out the door.

My son had an allergic reaction this spring to dust in the garage. Brought him in and said I would be paying personally. We were in the clinic for several hours and between multiple Dr consults, tests, and X-rays. Bill was $160....I was expecting 6-800 bucks.
It's funny, but it's not. I was looking for a quality knee brace and was recommended to a supplier. When I walked in the guy asked how I got in? Front door. He said it was usually locked, they only sold to doctors and no walk in sales. But, since I got in, he took my insurance info, and said your insurance covers this free to you. I asked what it would cost if I had to buy it? He said about $90. I left with a great brace. About 10 years later I was going to get one for the other knee, having the name and model I checked ebay. A whopping $25. Same brand, same model, with upgraded better fasteners. It's a shame, no other way to put it.
 
Any body see the videos of using a bottle jack to fell a tree, especially back leaners? I was just watching a few. Cracks me up how they put a face cut in, make a back cut, then let a tree that is essentially cut off, sit on the stump, subject to wind and weight stress on the hinge, and start fiddling with plunge cuts. On every video I watched I could have thrown a throwing sack or johnny ball over the first limb, pulled a tag line through, and safely put the tree on the ground faster than they could monkeying around doing something dangerous. Then read all the "back slapping" replies how it was genius to do that. I'm sure there are times a jack would work, I've just never seen one, where a pro could do it better, safer another way. Maybe felling timber in the woods. One showed a "pro" service" limb the tree out and then goof around throwing the log. When the log hit the ground it knocked divots the size of a wheel barrow out of the customers lawn. With a climber in the tree, why wouldn't they just chunk it down, drop each block in the same spot under the tree. Then when you grind the stump, that one dent would be gone, no damage to the lawn. I guess that's why I seldom give advice here, I'd feel bad if someone got hurt trying to do something I've done for almost 50 years, with pro grade equipment and pro grade help. But, anyone can put a video on the web. Buyer beware.
It definitely has a place in a faller's "bag of tricks" for certain trees but as you indicated there are often better methods to solve the problem.

And I agree, there are far too many Youtube "experts" out there who are dishing out unsafe advice.

Back when AS was the only show in town, there were a few crusty characters who hung out in F+L that used these methods. Unfortunately many of them had a serious chip on their shoulder and couldn't be bothered to speak to recreational cutters.
 
Either way, great firewood and lots of it. Going to give the 7900s a good work out.
That sounds fun to me, I need to find some big wood to cut around here, my 70+cc saws are wanting a good workout.
The bark looks like some of the red oak I see around here.
I was just out in IL the last couple weekends, its crazy how different the "same" tree will look in two different parts of the country.
I may be wrong but that looks like cottonwood to me.
That's what I was thinking too.
Good deal. Ever split locust? Stuff around here stinks really bad. Almost stomach turning.
I find the locust here doesn't smell much until you burn it, then it's a bit strong(not fireplace wood unless you were hard up for heat), but the heat :sweet:.
I also like the fishers on it because it doesn't split well unless you hit the exact same spot and the fishers does well at that.
Can't have been oak if you cut it up with a weedwhacker. Maybe it's a spruce :laugh:?
:laughing:
 
Hmm. Might be a touch longer that that, I'm afraid.

Pro tip. Unless you want to see a vein rupture in someone's forehead, don't ask the surgeon if you can cut wood the day after your six week review.
Neighbor had both of his wrist done at the same time, said he wasn't waiting 3- months, wife had to help with everything, crappy job she had :laugh:.
What about snow skiing on a sprang ankle, she said you didn't, I said I had a day off of work paid and it was a powder day :innocent:.
 
I havent cut wood in 6 months. I feel fine. :D Except for last night. Serious asthma attack. Or something. Related to dusty weed wacking and weed killer vapors I think. Was really close to dialing 911 but I dont have insurance. I would have owed the medical industry for the rest of my life.
I like to wear a mask when I'm weed whacking large areas.
I feel for you with the asthma, I've done more breathing treatments and hits off the emergency inhaler than I have in the past 5 yrs put together, it's been a rough summer for sure.
So glad I have been feeling better the last 5 days or so :happybanana:, praise God:bowdown:.
 
I guess it could be chestnut ?
Leaves would be a giveaway.
Does kinda sorta look like the chestnut oak I have seen but have never cut one. But those rings and the wood itself screams cottonwood.
Never seen a cottonwood in these parts, first time for everything. I’ll know it’s oak when I cut, 85% of my wood is oak. I need a hip and a knee replaced, still putting it off as long as I can.
Lots of cottonwood out east around lakes. The children's camp has a bunch of monsters along the shore. Except for a few aspen on a wet hillside the rest of the land is strictly hardwood.
 
If it is one tree I do not mind whittling away at it with a smaller saw provided it doesn't have too much bar. A long bar, low CC saw in hardwood is no fun. A decent small saw with the right bar in softwood isn't a bad experience even if it takes a while to do the job.
Most of the wood I get is oak and ash, both blowdowns or leftover from timber companies. When I got the Echo and being a greenhorn I got an 18” bar :(. Learned my lesson after joining AS.
 
Most of the wood I get is oak and ash, both blowdowns or leftover from timber companies. When I got the Echo and being a greenhorn I got an 18” bar :(. Learned my lesson after joining AS.
Yep.

Been playing around with that 5020 I have. The 20" bar is too much IMO for hardwood. Cuts OK in softwood. When I swapped to a 16" it is an enjoyable saw to use. Same with the 3516/4218. Good saw with a 14 or 16" but the 18" is way too much, especially in hardwood.
 
Yep.

Been playing around with that 5020 I have. The 20" bar is too much IMO for hardwood. Cuts OK in softwood. When I swapped to a 16" it is an enjoyable saw to use. Same with the 3516/4218. Good saw with a 14 or 16" but the 18" is way too much, especially in hardwood.
Leaving the 18” on one 400, just ordered 12” bar and chains for the other 400. I did learn. All my 60 and 65 cc saws only have 20” and the 80 cc saws only have 24”, oh yeah, the 50 cc has 18”.
 
That sounds fun to me, I need to find some big wood to cut around here, my 70+cc saws are wanting a good workout.

I was just out in IL the last couple weekends, its crazy how different the "same" tree will look in two different parts of the country.
That's what I was thinking too.

I find the locust here doesn't smell much until you burn it, then it's a bit strong(not fireplace wood unless you were hard up for heat), but the heat :sweet:.
I also like the fishers on it because it doesn't split well unless you hit the exact same spot and the fishers does well at that.

:laughing:

The black locust out here (all imported mostly by the settlers) doesn't have a strong smell and I like what it does have. Some people here even use it for smoking and I have a regular customer who wants it for pit barbecue.

AS for splitting I find it easy with a Fiskar's. Green I commonly get a 'bounce' with the first strike. Dry it splits like a dream.
 
I love my 346/550 with a 16" and even my 562 with a 16". Most of my trees in my home range top out around 18" so do not need much bar. (These monsters I have been cutting have been yard trees). I also have a lot of rocks in the woods so less bar means less times the nose accidentally connects with rocks LOL.

My 2186 was very much rear heavy with an 18" but balanced great with 20". Had 20, 24, and 28 for it. Could probably have just left the 24" on it all the time.

I like 14" for the fleet of 30-42 cc saws I have. 12" is fun and 16" is approaching the limit. Also have one 18" bar for emergency purposes in case a big pine falls across the road.
 
Never seen a cottonwood in these parts, first time for everything. I’ll know it’s oak when I cut, 85% of my wood is oak. I need a hip and a knee replaced, still putting it off as long as I can.

Hips are a snap...at least mine were. 1st one they sent me to rehab, second one not. I didn't try cutting wood but I was out scouting sources while still using a cane. I have heard horror stories about knee's though, My brother's was a disaster, partly the fault of the Physical Therapist. Had him doing an excercise the tore the ligament again. He still has a bad limp.
 
Hips are a snap...at least mine were. 1st one they sent me to rehab, second one not. I didn't try cutting wood but I was out scouting sources while still using a cane. I have heard horror stories about knee's though, My brother's was a disaster, partly the fault of the Physical Therapist. Had him doing an excercise the tore the ligament again. He still has a bad limp.
The hip shouldn’t be bad, like you I’ve seen and heard nothing but horror stories about knees. My knee won’t get done until I have to crawl.
 
Woke up early so decided to 'beat the heat' and go clear brush again. 3.5 hours of flying a Husky top handle/14" and an MS362/20" yanking deadfall out of 7' tall grass will definitly give a work out. Didn't even notice the heat, wore a sweat band and didn't need to change it. Got home and guessed the temp at about 85, checked the weather gizmo and it was 92. Supposed to top 100 today. The brush I was working on was 2 deadfalls that the farmber had dozed into a sloppy (very) pile. I didn't quite finish and it made two burn piles. Still have a few limbs sticking way out from the second pile.

I've got several trees ready to be felled but with the surgery coming I don't have time to clean one of them up so justt brush clearance for a few days.
 

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