Inside the MS462C - Snellerized Style

[crabby cooter]

so what do you think of the saw in general brad, I found it easy to work on.

 

[blsnelling]

how do you determine if gutting the strato's helps ?

Honestly, I just went for it on this saw. I based that decision entirely on my experience with the 261 where I did a lot of testing on a progressive build. The same mods also work extremely well on the 241.

I would loved to have been able to do more testing on this saw, including a progressive build as well as fuel efficient along with that. I simply don't have the time, energy, or wood to do that.

so what do you think of the saw in general brad, I found it easy to work on.

Well, I have mixed feelings there. This saw is put together differently and I've only had it apart once. The biggest difference is how the tank, loop handle, and throttle are put together. I could use some more practice, lol. Now that I've had one apart, I should visit your videos again.

 

[blsnelling]

I would like to see a ported one ran next to one with stage 1 mods.

I would too. As already mentioned, this wood and testing didn't give real comparable numbers. If someone wants to send me another saw, lol, and doesn't need it right away, I'll do another stage one mod and find some wood to do a more proper test in. I was too anxious to see this saw ported to do better testing.

 

[blsnelling]

@crabby cooter @redbull660 You guys are welcome to come build me one of your proper test cants.

 

[FamilyTradition]

Here she is!

Hey Brad, nice to see and hear from you again! Congratulations on your Daughters wedding as well! I have to ask, are you wearing a Husqvarna hat while running your newly modded Stihl?!?!?! LOL, that's awesome!!! Nice saw, glad you're back, we missed your contribution to AS. Max.

 

[blsnelling]

Funny you ask. I had a Husqvarna hat out to wear last week when I went to Andre's place to run this saw. Fortunately, I saw the error in my ways and grabbed a Stihl hat

 

[Deleted member 117362]

I was going to average the fastest time with the dogged-in time for each of the runs, but for the first 3, the dogged-in time is the fastest time, and for the port job, it is one of the slower times.


Dogged-in times might be the only solid apples to apples comparison in the bunch, which was 12.8 stock, 13 with the muffler mod, 13.3 with the advance, and 11.7 ported.

So as Tony Ray said you save, 1 minute in 20 cuts. When you really save one minute in 54.5 cuts.

 

[Westboastfaller]

Even if all things were equal, which it wasn't, So it just becomes hypothetical. It would be a poor way to look at it Duce. If You do do it that way then what is relevant would be the extra cuts made in a minute to complete the story.
You have to break it down. *IF... going by time cuts. Percentage is what you want there.

 

[blsnelling]

Scott, I know you've been waiting for this! This stock spike is pathetic. I don't have an outer one yet.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a 661R spike part. I'll have to look up the outer one.

 

[Frank Rizzo]

Even if all things were equal, which it wasn't, So it just becomes hypothetical. It would be a poor way to look at it Duce. If You do do it that way then what is relevant would be the extra cuts made in a minute to complete the story.
You have to break it down. *IF... going by time cuts. Percentage is what you want there.

. Yah ... I like to see 30-40% increase in cutting speed ... IF you have lots of timber to buck the port-job pays for itself rather quickly and then it’s gravy after that ... plus you have the enjoyment of running a saw that punches FAR above its weight class

 

[LowVolt]

Did you get any timed cuts with and without the spike?

 

[crabby cooter]

Scott, I know you've been waiting for this! This stock spike is pathetic. I don't have an outer one yet.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a 661R spike part. I'll have to look up the outer one.

must be another psp saw.

I prefer the softer spikes, they will bend before breaking the case. longer spikes mean you need a longer bar to have the same length of cut. adds extra cost and weight to the nose of the saw where I don't want it. big spikes have a place out west but not here.

 

[Westboastfaller]

I apologize for droping my post shortly after your video yesterday. No disrespect meant.
It was one of those...started earlier finished later post and Im not able to flip of the page without losing the post.
....also can not see videos or some peoples personal pictures .

Why did I give It a like?
Because I like people to feel like they are participating too. Lolzz

No...I think you said it had lightning trigger response..
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So I saw the video on YouTube.

I like shows where they have Pro riders/drivers that test a variety of the new street bikes or new cars on a track.

You get breakdows of everything, your handling, braking, exeleration,power, options.

Then each is scored for a final tally as to the best bike or car that year.

I think its forestry.com that does a little bit on saws. I saw them do the 572 somewhat.

Anyways... That's the evolution from the old Pro Stock 1/4 mile moto of " win on Sunday...sell on Monday.


You could draw a parallel with ported work saws.
It just hasn't evolved to reality yet.
I don't know how many hours I've drove through the nights on winnedy, icy roads, mountain roads, dodging Deer,Moose, Sheep ect and going as far as I can and as fast as I can.

*It is rarely ever about the 1/4 mile between the corners that gets you there the fastest.

I understand the importance of time testing for R&D but yeah it does become a sales gimmic for some.

Rambling^^^
Anyway..saw ported video.
Starts good sound good cuts good. started good hot. Sounded mean when you layed on the dogs. And yes it had lightning response the saw wasn't shuttering down coming of the trigger and the chain seemed to stop at about 2 sec which is good. Maybe it was getting snug.IDK. AV are good in that saw or you have complemented the back ones through exhaust. I could tell more things but you would have to do more tricks fom me. Haha.

Seriously like it
Good job, you got nuts.
Art class is over
now go back to science .

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

Scott, I know you've been waiting for this! This stock spike is pathetic. I don't have an outer one yet.

If I'm not mistaken, this is a 661R spike part. I'll have to look up the outer one.

Ya thats a 661 doggie brad, too much gun for our woods...in my opinion.

 

[Andyshine77]

must be another psp saw.

I prefer the softer spikes, they will bend before breaking the case. longer spikes mean you need a longer bar to have the same length of cut. adds extra cost and weight to the nose of the saw where I don't want it. big spikes have a place out west but not here.

I get what you're saying, but the spike that came on the saw was useless IMHO, And around here some of the bark on larger trees gets pretty thick. Long bars also = less bending over. Not sure about the 661 spikes though, looks a bit long for that saw, but that stock dog may as well not even be there.[emoji111]

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

I get what you're saying, but the spike that came on the saw was useless IMHO, And around here some of the bark on larger trees gets pretty thick. Long bars also = less bending over. Not sure about the 661 spikes though, looks a bit long for that saw, but that stock dog may as well not even be there.[emoji111]

Im tellin ya..the ones i gave brad the numbers for are perfect for our hardwoods..especially on 70cc saws.

 

[edisto]

So as Tony Ray said you save, 1 minute in 20 cuts. When you really save one minute in 54.5 cuts.

Depends on how often you stop to refuel.

 

[blsnelling]

Im tellin ya..the ones i gave brad the numbers for are perfect for our hardwoods..especially on 70cc saws.

These 661 are dawgs are bigger than I remembered. I'll have to revisit the 064 dawgs again.

 

[Spectre468]

These 661 are dawgs are bigger than I remembered. I'll have to revisit the 064 dawgs again.

I have the Double Dawgs with the ceramic roller on both my 661 and 362. I'm thinking the set for the 362 might be the right size for the 462, as these saws seem to be more comparable in size than the 661. Just thinking out loud. As I have not been able to get my hands on a 462, I maybe way off the mark...

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

I have the Double Dawgs with the ceramic roller on both my 661 and 362. I'm thinking the set for the 362 might be the right size for the 462, as these saws seem to be more comparable in size than the 661. Just thinking out loud. As I have not been able to get my hands on a 462, I maybe way off the mark...

Dawgs from a 362 won't line up on a 462.

The smaller dawgs from an 064 are perfect for our neck of the woods.