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Not trying to be argumentative but have you seen the price of milk lately? Up just shy of $1.00 a gallon. Divert more products from the food chain. Suspect beef price rise is next. Make it from something we don't eat or feed to something we then eat! Ethanol is politics as usual!


At this plant the only part of corn that goes into the fermenting process is what is left after it has been milled and sent to other parts of the plant for processing into different food products. The mash is then also sent back into the plant and made into feed. It all comes out in the end with the same nutritional content as it started with.
 
The Swedish and Finish members are correct. The excessive use of gas guzzlers in the USA is not helping anyone but the oil companies. Raise the cost to what others have to pay and that would get rid of the big thirsty beasts. We pay the equiv of $4.45 / gal which may sound cheap but we also earn less on average.
 
I call BS that ethanol has anything to do with saw problems.
The manufacturers just say that because their saws suck. Reformulated fuel is an easy scape goat.
I just pulled an old 066 out yesterday that's been sitting for at least 6 months with 10% ethanol fuel in the tank and it started right up and ran fine.
 
Brazil runs almost entirely on ethanol. Somebody can make it work.
I don't think they're buying petroleum to grow food to burn it though. The way we're doing it here is idiotic; designed only to give your money to agri-business.

And Brazil and other S. American countries are also cutting down their rain forests in order to grow sugar cane to make the ethanol fuel. Environmentally responsible? Not in my book. But that's where a lot of the exotic wood flooring is coming out of.

I think the service guy at Husky is just trying to slide a warranty issue past. They do warranty their saws for period of time regardless of what type of fuel is used in therm.

This is a "wierd" thread. Reminds me of a bunch of congressmen (persons) trying to solve an immigration problem.
 
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I call BS that ethanol has anything to do with saw problems.
The manufacturers just say that because their saws suck. Reformulated fuel is an easy scape goat.
I just pulled an old 066 out yesterday that's been sitting for at least 6 months with 10% ethanol fuel in the tank and it started right up and ran fine.


+1... I run the same fuel mix in different equipment with no problems, they don't want to hear that and scoring on the exhaust side automatically equals lack of lubrication equals dumb owner not mixing the oil and fuel properly. I do think there are problems with the ethanol blended fuels as expressed by my neighbor that runs a gas station. There are known issues that when presented to the "authorities" comes back with the reply "well that's just something the end user will have to address such as clogged fuel injectors and filters and water in the tanks. The government is our worst enemy.
 
Many around here run different equipment on Aspen fuel, and it seems to be a good alternative to gas, even good gas.

http://www.aspen.se/Aspen_(eng)_Aspen_Petroleum_DXNI-3250_.aspx
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High octane does not mean "better gas"
http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/webtemp3.cfm?dept=3&id=2049

http://www.pontiacstreetperformance.com/psp/Mythsgas1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Ethanol may cause a problem if you have been using regular gas for awhile as it will melt for lack of a better word the varnish and clog up things.

I agree with all those that post - make the product work and stop making excuses for the type of gasoline used.

I use 87 octane, have for years and never had a repair shop try and blame the gas I used for any failure .. maybe because they know I would call bullsheet.
 
So what does a gallon of that Aspen cost?
What is it made out of ?

here in Sweden, one gallon of normal 95 octane gas costs around: 5,3 USD
One gallon of Aspen costs around 8,5 USD.

I consume roughly 100 gallons / year for my chainsaws and clearing saws so I would save maybe 300 USD on using normal gas. Then I would have to buy oil, spend time to mix, and my headache I used to have after 8hours of brush cutting would come back. I think it's worth every penny. The saw runs much better too.


From Aspen website:
The name comes from the word alkylation, which is the name of the process used to extract the raw product.
The alkylation process takes place at oil refineries through surplus gases from the crude oil distillation and cracking plant being mixed. The result is a liquid. This liquid (alkylate) is the purest extractable petroleum product.
The alkylate is then mixed with a number of other components and we now have a finished product, ready to be used in most small engines.

Better for your health, the engine and our environment
When you use Aspen environmental petrol, you avoid dangerous substances such as benzene and aromatic hydrocarbons, substances that can cause serious health problems. The engine is also treated more kindly, for example, the spark plug and combustion chamber are kept cleaner. The petrol can be stored and even after long periods of no use, your engine starts without any problem if your tank has been filled with Aspen environmental petrol. Environmentally, there are numerous benefits, e.g. the formation of ground-level ozone (smog) is reduced by more than 50 %.

Maximum efficiency
Small engines are often uncomplicated and are technically simple engines with less than optimal combustion rates. This means that much of the fuel escapes unused. This, in turn, has a negative impact on both the environment and you, the user.

Aspen 2t is a ready-mixed petrol with 2 % fully synthetic two-stroke oil.
 
Because.. it would sell like a lead balloon.

While I may be in the minority, I admit I'd love to have it...IF, and it's a big IF, the claims about being able to let it sit for long periods without it degrading were true. That's one reason I don't have a smaller saw now...it would be a "nice-to-have" for when I needed it, but as a weekend warrior I just wouldn't be able to use it enough to bother with the "storage maintenance." If I were able to let the saw sit, with fuel in it, for long periods of time, I would certainly buy Aspen, and I would go ahead and get a smaller saw to go with it!!

I doubt professionals would buy any, though, and it would have to be a saw-nut weekend warrior to want to have it, and that's a fairly small market to have to sell to...
 
If storage and quality is the issue, you can just buy 100LL AV gas at your local airport. It will store for well over a year.
 
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