Husky 235e and 240e?
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SawTroll
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Don't know where they are made, but they are lacking seriously in power according to specs.....:censored:
woodyman
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Husky 235e 240e
I broke the starter cover on my HUSKY 44(2.7 HP):jawdrop: and found a used one off a HUSKY 240 that fit.One off a HUSKY 140 would have worked too.
I broke the starter cover on my HUSKY 44(2.7 HP):jawdrop: and found a used one off a HUSKY 240 that fit.One off a HUSKY 140 would have worked too.
I haven't seen one IRL, but from the pictures I would say there's a good chance they're actually made in Sweden and being real Husqvarnas! If you look closely they have the little metal badge with the serial number and place of origin written on it. The Poulan-made ones just had a plastic sticker.
spike60
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We've been told that it is a "Swedish engine", but they are assembled down in Cajun country.
VI sawguy
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Made in the USA, same deal as the 136/141 where they are made in the Poulan factory with a mix of Poulan and Husqvarna parts.
HUSKYMAN
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They are X-Torq saws, so they are turds:censored:
SawTroll
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The power rating reflects that.......
.......even worse than the strangulated US market 142s and 137s........
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treeclimber jul
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are they about the same Quality and power as a 180 stihl?????
That's a hot subject...
I say they are not. Others say that small Stihls are equally bad. Sorry, good, good I mean, where's my manors..?
The problem seems to be mainly that they are assembled as if they were Poulans, and quality checked as if they were Poulans. This seems to make the fact that they're made from "Swedish" parts matter less...
My view is that the small Stihls are still Stihls, and even their lowest quality is pretty darn good! I would take any small Stihl over any 1xx-series Husqvarna or 213x-series Jonsered any day.
Until I've seen and touched them I'll regard the 2xx-series the same.
spike60
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The issue with the products coming out of the Poulan factory is not that the workers there are any less capable than their Swedish counterparts. The problem is that they have always been assembling garbage. Wildthings, could be assembled in the Mercedes AMG factory, but they would still be junk.
I'm not saying the workers of Poulan would be less capable, just that the operation as a whole seemingly does not have to meet the same quality standards as the one in Husqvarna. Or the one in Virginia Beach for that matter.
If further they are given lower quality material to assemble there's not much they can be blamed for at all. But you can blame the company for not demanding, and providing the required resources, to assemble products of the same quality as another assembly plant within the same organization.
I assume most workers would like to produce the highest possible quality in what they work with, but they seldom have a say in the process of being most profitable instead...
The "right" quality on their products, as many companies call it today, is seldom the same as high quality. This makes at least me sad.
nikocker
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Huh????
Guys, its a $100+ saw! Seems to me they are building saws to a specific price point!!!! What do you want a $125.00 saw to be like?? Should it be comparable to a 346XP or a 372?? I think for a $100+ dollar saw to last at least as long as some of the "Wild Thing" owners have attested to is in itself amazing!
Just my opinion.
Al
Guys, its a $100+ saw! Seems to me they are building saws to a specific price point!!!! What do you want a $125.00 saw to be like?? Should it be comparable to a 346XP or a 372?? I think for a $100+ dollar saw to last at least as long as some of the "Wild Thing" owners have attested to is in itself amazing!
Just my opinion.
Al
Guys, its a $100+ saw! Seems to me they are building saws to a specific price point!!!! What do you want a $125.00 saw to be like?? Should it be comparable to a 346XP or a 372?? I think for a $100+ dollar saw to last at least as long as some of the "Wild Thing" owners have attested to is in itself amazing!
Just my opinion.
Al
Yes, of course, but we're not talking about that $100 saw, we are talking about the $100 saw they are charging $200 for while trying to pretend it's of the same quality as thier $400 saws. At least I am.
The WildThing for about a $100, well it's just a cheap saw for a cheap price. But it's actually more honest imho.
nikocker
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Ok
Let's see they are taking the $100+ (maybe even $150 in the case of a Wild Thing or Craftsman) dollar saw - - adding Swedish made pistons and other internals - - assemble it with OH MY GOD - American labor, and have the GALL to charge $199!!!! Yet they still warrant it for two years. Sounds like a hell of a saw at a hell of a deal. . . . and you know what, unlike you I own one, and it works just fine.
Al
Let's see they are taking the $100+ (maybe even $150 in the case of a Wild Thing or Craftsman) dollar saw - - adding Swedish made pistons and other internals - - assemble it with OH MY GOD - American labor, and have the GALL to charge $199!!!! Yet they still warrant it for two years. Sounds like a hell of a saw at a hell of a deal. . . . and you know what, unlike you I own one, and it works just fine.
Al
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Let's see they are taking the $100+ (maybe even $150 in the case of a Wild Thing or Craftsman) dollar saw - - adding Swedish made pistons and other internals - - assemble it with OH MY GOD - American labor, and have the GALL to charge $199!!!! Yet they still warrant it for two years. Sounds like a hell of a saw at a hell of a deal. . . . and you know what, unlike you I own one, and it works just fine.
Al
I can't of course really argue with that, you have one I don't, but we've had at least two cases of dealers stating here on AS that they have quit selling those models because they feel that they do not meet the quality expectations of customers coming in to buy the quality brand Husqvarna. And in Husky's own words, IIRC, "the production of the 1xx models are adjusted to the Poulan way of doing things".
And hey, please read my last post again, I'm not bashing American workers! I'm quite clear on that's it's the way Husqvarna runs it that is the problem, not the people trying to make a living from assembling parts, OK?
And I'm not here to bash your saw (anymore, I'm trying to cut down...), you're happy with it, great! But the guy that bought the next one had it fried on it's first use, just because it was a bad one that just happened to slip right through Poulans quality control. And that seems to happen a lot with them. One saw is fine, the next isn't. Happens to all manufacturers, but for other there are 10 fine to each bad, or a 100 fine to each bad. Of course I made those numbers up, but my point is that it seems to happen a lot more often for the Husqvarnas that are manufactured according to "the Poulan way of doing things."
You're happy with your saw? Great, happy for you, and I can relate, because I actually like my Partner 400. It's considerd to be the source of what has become this modern plastic ragnarök (that's armageddon in Viking-speak), but it works well for me and is actually quite fun to use. Had I not tried it myself I would never have believed anyone stating that...
SawTroll
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.... I actually like my Partner 400. It's considerd to be the source of what has become this modern plastic ragnarök (that's armageddon in Viking-speak), but it works well for me and is actually quite fun to use. Had I not tried it myself I would never have believed anyone stating that...
As far as I know that is true - and that one was the forefather of lots of saw models.......
nikocker
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Maccall - I see what you're saying.
I'm not insinuating that you're bashing American workers or even that class of saw(too much anyway). But I reiterate that it's built to a price point - and marketed as a homeowner's model only. Not at all on the same level as Pro or Landowner models. and yet they sell them relatively inexpensively, and still warrant them for two years. Which if I remember is a year longer than Stihl. . . Which at least gives the owner some recourse (although a bit cumbersome if purchased through a box store) should a problem should arise.
As far as some Husky dealers not wanting to sell them I would bet it has more to do with the fact that they are sold through the big boxes as well that they're upset with. For the record, I bought mine through a dealer like all my saws.
Al
I'm not insinuating that you're bashing American workers or even that class of saw(too much anyway). But I reiterate that it's built to a price point - and marketed as a homeowner's model only. Not at all on the same level as Pro or Landowner models. and yet they sell them relatively inexpensively, and still warrant them for two years. Which if I remember is a year longer than Stihl. . . Which at least gives the owner some recourse (although a bit cumbersome if purchased through a box store) should a problem should arise.
As far as some Husky dealers not wanting to sell them I would bet it has more to do with the fact that they are sold through the big boxes as well that they're upset with. For the record, I bought mine through a dealer like all my saws.
Al
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I appreciate all the replies. I think that what I was really asking was how they compare with an MS180 but I didn't want to get into a stihl vs. husky bash. I find myself using the little saws a lot more than I anticipated and the 180's have worked fine for me. I would like the antivibe to be better, especially in very cold weather (the ms 280 that I have is really smooth). From the tool less chain tensioner, it looked as though Husky had redesigned their smallest saws. Doesn't sound like the littly Husky's are going to be a quantum jump in any way on a 180 size range so I won't run out to buy one. Maybe the little Shindaiwa is a great saw. I don't know and nobody on the forum seems to use them. There is a Husky/Shindaiwa dealer in town but almost nobody seems to buy Shindaiwa here and Shihl has almost all of the market.
Looks like I'll have to find some other reason to buy another saw. I have always preferred the full orange color scheme to the creamsicle one even if I didn't own any of full orange ones.
Looks like I'll have to find some other reason to buy another saw. I have always preferred the full orange color scheme to the creamsicle one even if I didn't own any of full orange ones.
