I took out my ported 2260 out yesterday afternoon to run it WOT in wood for 3-5 minutes to see if the AT would adjust. I'm not having as big of issues as some of the other guys on here, but it usually boggs a little coming of more than a 10 second idle. It was @30° out and after running for @4. minutes in wood wot it still would hesitate a little after it idles. Guess you can add my name to the list of people that got a new.pro saw with a sh-- carb.
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KenJax Tree
Terraphobic
My 562 did that for about the first tank after that it worked itself out and has been fine since
Sent from my Autotune Carb
KenJax Tree
Terraphobic
Mine is only muffler modded and no problems at all the 550 is the same way
Sent from my Autotune Carb
Sent from my Autotune Carb
4-5000 rpm the clutch would be engaged, so most likely it was not that high rather a bit over 3000 rpm, till it transitioned back down. Normal in cold temperatures as the saws run leaner. When restarting, setting high idle didn't work?
The change to the EL46 was mainly to integrated a separate service plug, when the Zama part numbers are released we will know more.
Do you have the serial number of your old saw still?
Junkfxr
ArboristSite Operative
The clutch was engaged, chain spinning like crazy . It done that quite a few times. No, high idle didn't work for restarting it after it died idling. 2012 1800064
Whats the build date on your replacement saw?
Junkfxr it looks like you have already posted it earlier, is this "ser.#2012 2200xxx" correct on what you have now? If so it looks like your first saw was 4weeks into the changeover to the EL46, your replacement was built 4 weeks after your first one. Both fairly early in EL46 switchover builds compared to today. The replacement may have been new off the shelf but its build date still over a year old.
Wondering if anyone like TK or Mitch has kept note of the build dates on the Saws they have been working on trying to fix, on the EL46 equipped saws? Maybe there was a bad batch in the beginning that the build #'s are close or is it just more random chance of happening?
Wondering if anyone like TK or Mitch has kept note of the build dates on the Saws they have been working on trying to fix, on the EL46 equipped saws? Maybe there was a bad batch in the beginning that the build #'s are close or is it just more random chance of happening?
Locust Cutter
Sawing for Sanity
As posted on the other site...
I do applaud all efforts going into figuring this thing out. I never meant to demonize the saw in the least bit as I like it very much. It was a bit disconcerting at first hearing and feeling the saw adjust on-the-fly, in the cut, but knowing what it's doing is pretty cool. I had heard of a few people having similar issues as mine but figured that having bought 12 saws in my life, and this being the first with an issue, my odds have been uncannily good, relative to my usual acquaintance with Murphy and his law(s). I have no where near the level of 2-stroke knowledge of TK, Randy, Terry, Brad, Stumpy, Mike lee, etc, but am a gear-head at heart, so I like having at least a rudimentary understanding of the internal workings of my equipment. The posts I have made in this thread and the one one, were to try to express my unique observances and see if it helped those, smarter than me, to do some Monday morning quarterbacking. I was a bit pissed for a while, but I understand that it's likely a simple problem. Without having access to a manual to guide my troubleshooting (absent experience) this seemed to be the second best alternative.
FWIW, I also had a 6.0 Powerstroke for a bit (knowing full good and well the potential issues thereof). What I did not know at the time of purchase however, was that the oil and egr coolers were BOTH blown (dealer has since been sued out of business, by others, for similar shady dealings). There were other minor issues, but coupled with the aforementioned, it was traded in on a Hyundai for the wife as a financial decision. Would I have anther 6.0? Sure, assuming the injectors/HPOP/VGT turbo were all healthy and that someone else had already sunk the $$$ into the studs, egr delete, external oil cooler and FICM upgrade. It's a lengthy list (much worse than a bad carb, air leak or A/T module) but that's what it takes to have a healthy truck from a realistic preventative maintenance perspective. I am NOT directly comparing the 562 directly to the 6.0, but comparisons can, (I think) fairly be drawn. Hell the S&W M&P autos had teething problems. I like the 1911 better, but it also had a 75+ year head-start in R&D and still isn't necessarily more reliable...
Thanks again to all and Terry, I will be in touch.
I do applaud all efforts going into figuring this thing out. I never meant to demonize the saw in the least bit as I like it very much. It was a bit disconcerting at first hearing and feeling the saw adjust on-the-fly, in the cut, but knowing what it's doing is pretty cool. I had heard of a few people having similar issues as mine but figured that having bought 12 saws in my life, and this being the first with an issue, my odds have been uncannily good, relative to my usual acquaintance with Murphy and his law(s). I have no where near the level of 2-stroke knowledge of TK, Randy, Terry, Brad, Stumpy, Mike lee, etc, but am a gear-head at heart, so I like having at least a rudimentary understanding of the internal workings of my equipment. The posts I have made in this thread and the one one, were to try to express my unique observances and see if it helped those, smarter than me, to do some Monday morning quarterbacking. I was a bit pissed for a while, but I understand that it's likely a simple problem. Without having access to a manual to guide my troubleshooting (absent experience) this seemed to be the second best alternative.
FWIW, I also had a 6.0 Powerstroke for a bit (knowing full good and well the potential issues thereof). What I did not know at the time of purchase however, was that the oil and egr coolers were BOTH blown (dealer has since been sued out of business, by others, for similar shady dealings). There were other minor issues, but coupled with the aforementioned, it was traded in on a Hyundai for the wife as a financial decision. Would I have anther 6.0? Sure, assuming the injectors/HPOP/VGT turbo were all healthy and that someone else had already sunk the $$$ into the studs, egr delete, external oil cooler and FICM upgrade. It's a lengthy list (much worse than a bad carb, air leak or A/T module) but that's what it takes to have a healthy truck from a realistic preventative maintenance perspective. I am NOT directly comparing the 562 directly to the 6.0, but comparisons can, (I think) fairly be drawn. Hell the S&W M&P autos had teething problems. I like the 1911 better, but it also had a 75+ year head-start in R&D and still isn't necessarily more reliable...
Thanks again to all and Terry, I will be in touch.
Mainly to integrate an easy access service plug but other changes definitely included a new main nozzle as well as throttle plate. Those are the obvious changes, who knows what else. Not sure why they made the extra changes..... But yes, the response from the top was to allow easier access to plugging in for diagnostics.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
I'll take bad batch of carbs for 500 Alex.
Ya, more than likely popping a new EL46 on there will cure the AIDs or whatevers inside these things.
Junkfxr
ArboristSite Operative
Yeah...well... how does one know if they have a NEW EL46? Just curious and purely showing ignorance here.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
The 562 ain't the only saw that ever was equipped with a funky running carb. But the 562 does get the most exposure from it.
Mastermind
Work Saw Specialist
I think that a new carb would come in a Zama box....... lol
Every "old" carb ain't bad......if the saw runs good....no worries.
Junkfxr
ArboristSite Operative
Alrighty then. Let me rephrase that. How would someone.....say a dealer, know if he had a new or old carb in the box on the shelf?
I started mine last night in the garage when I got home. Snappy throttle, no dying, beautiful idling, all while ice cold. I think it runs better than when I first got the saw with 2 tanks of fuel through it.Horray EL44!
MountainHigh
Selective Tree whacker
my dealer has 562xp's with serial starting 2013xxxxxxxx as well as even fresher 526xp's arriving on a palette this week .... Is there any chance these 2013 and even newer 562's with EL46's are not the lemon carbs?
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