I have seen three or four Chinese knockoffs of the Super Split recently. Has anyone seen them in their area? I guess I would have some reservations about their quality.
I have seen three or four Chinese knockoffs of the Super Split recently. Has anyone seen them in their area? I guess I would have some reservations about their quality.
the words chinese and quality do not go together... atleast not with out words like ( "Lack Of", "Low", "No", "Horrible", you get the idea...):msp_biggrin:
Eh. Not sure I'd agree. Can't speak to raw materials, I'm just talking about manufacturing.
I once worked for a company that sent OEM gasoline pump parts (Gilbarco, Tolkheim, Wayne) to Shenzhen to be ripped up and copied, then imported to the U.S. and exported to the Latin American market. The products we brought in were of significantly higher quality than the OEM products they were based on.
I was proud working there because I was in charge of shipping and inventory control, so I was extremely familiar with the quality of our product since I had to handle it and store it in a way that did not damage the product and I was aware of any return that ever happened because it came to me, so I knew why any given product failed.
Chinese fabricators are capable of doing high quality stuff but obviously high quality means higher prices and if the people commissioning the fabrication want corners cut, they'll get low-quality product out of China. If, on the other hand, the buyers want a quality build, and send back product that fall short of spec, they'll get high quality product out of China. The fabricators know there are a billion fabricators in Shenzhen, and if you mean business they can be replaced by someone who provide you the product you're looking for.
Which is no different than stateside or anywhere else for that matter.
Chinese product is not inherently shoddy. It's that buyers often go to China for the rock-bottom labor costs and those people are often also interested in putting cost before quality and what they're getting is precisely what they want.
Bonus: 你疯了 - (phonetically, "nee fung low mah") "Are you crazy??"
i agree with your last sentence, but its 99% of products coming out of there that are about quanity, not quality that most people see, not often do people see the 1% of "quality" products coming from china...
and your second sentence, how difficult can it possibly be to COPY something like a gas pump, when someone else has already done all of the engineering???
im not familiar with gas pumps, but where were the oem pumps manufactured to begin with?
the whole thing pisses me off, corporate greed IS the biggest problem in this country, it should be illegal for a US based company to manufacture products in another country, just to send them back to the US
i agree with your last sentence, but its 99% of products coming out of there that are about quanity, not quality that most people see, not often do people see the 1% of "quality" products coming from china...
and your second sentence, how difficult can it possibly be to COPY something like a gas pump, when someone else has already done all of the engineering??? im not familiar with gas pumps, but where were the oem pumps manufactured to begin with?
the whole thing pisses me off, corporate greed IS the biggest problem in this country, it should be illegal for a US based company to manufacture products in another country, just to send them back to the US,
trading goods like food /materials is fine but only if it benifits BOTH countries, not putting 1 country to work while lining the pockets of corporations in the other...
there was a company in the town i work in, (evergreen solar) they recieved tons of government/state money to build their new location/advance the technology. so they built the building, advanced their technology,(all paid for by taxpayers) then less than a year later, closed up shop and started manufacturing in china.
that was about 4 years ago, never had to pay back a dime, just penalties for laying off 100's of people... its reasons like this that it should be illegal to for a US based company to do #### like this. and this isnt the only case, theres many simillar ones out there.
I see this thread heading for the political forum.
There is no way a SS is ideal for very tough or stringy NZ/AUS woods, but it sure will get through it OK. Might take a few strikes but it'll do it. Much of the problems are having to think differently to normal hydraulic splitting. Approach it more like axe splitting.chinese splitters
Yes, I see all these nice splitter demos with their straight grain wood that falls apart with a thought of a wedge, Boy I wish I could find that, 90% of mine has knots or twists and turns in it, and i,m sure the kinetic splitter would not even look at it.
There is no way a SS is ideal for very tough or stringy NZ/AUS woods, but it sure will get through it OK. Might take a few strikes but it'll do it. Much of the problems are having to think differently to normal hydraulic splitting. Approach it more like axe splitting.
I've split al manner of tough NZ woods. Some of it doesn't split so much as it fractures or rips apart. SS still gets through it. But in such woods, the more I'm chasing production, the bigger the ugly pile becomes. That said, I think you'll be surprised a what it can do. I know I was. Wet, stringy, knotty OM Pine, gum so hard you'd swear your newly sharpened chain is blunt, etc. If this one ever dies before I'm too old to split wood with it, guess what I'm buying to replace it? Another one.
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