contract climbers

[jefflovstrom]

He doesn't fight any brush at all. I make sure everything is picked up. We go a a decent pace but not back breaking. I would rather be safe then save an hour. He is spoiled I know that. The problem is finding someone to replace him.

Scott

Well said dude!
Jeff

 

[Little Monkey]

yes spoiled, i too have found that sometimes the better they are looked after the worse they get,, 300 for a day means 300 for a day,, there are plenty more where he came from probably someone better too,, i do my best to look after and be friendly with staff and outside contractors but its a fine line and you have to keep them aware that you are the boss and while you pay the wages they do as they are told like it or not, unfortunatly when you are the bossman you have to bust balls weather you want to or not

 

[BCbound]

What equipement do you guys expect a contract climber to supply? If there's any canadians on the forum to add some info that wold be great.

 

[STLfirewood]

I own the climbing gear. I bought it a couple a years ago. I knew I would never climb but a lot of climbers around here don't own their own gear. I figured if I had it anyone with skills could climb for me and use it. I'm going to try and find another guy. Right now I can book most of my work on the weekend or small jobs in the evening. I don't expect a climber to lift a finger on the ground. Once it's down they can leave.

Scott

 

[custom8726]

I own the climbing gear. I bought it a couple a years ago. I knew I would never climb but a lot of climbers around here don't own their own gear. I figured if I had it anyone with skills could climb for me and use it. I'm going to try and find another guy. Right now I can book most of my work on the weekend or small jobs in the evening. I don't expect a climber to lift a finger on the ground. Once it's down they can leave.

Scott

Most any good climber thats worth $300 a day, has his/her own gear. I do 95 percent of the climbing but I do have a climber / buddy that has come in 5-6 times in the last couple years and I pay him $300 a day.

 

[BCbound]

STL makes me wish I was in St.louis. That's great pay for someone who doesn't have to provide a thing and no clean.

 

[1savagehunter]

Time to let him go

For that price ... he should be buying you lunch. No ground work ??? - good by climber

 

[gavin]

liability insurance

i've been wondering about his for a while...as a subcontractor do you have to have your own liability insurance (for damage etc, not workers compensation) or are the subcontractors covered by the main contractor?

anybody know how the insurance companies feel about it? how about the courts?

i would be inclined to think if you're subcontracting (under the law, you are in charge of yourself, how the work is dones, have your own tools, etc.) then you would have to carry your own liability insurance...correct?

 

[fishercat]

for $300 a day here,you don't get much.

for that rate,they usually don't have their own gear,they need a ride,have a drug habit or get real sloppy the closer it gets to happy hour.

i have my own gear and insurance and i'm safe and stone cold sober.i think $100 an hour is more than fair.it rarely takes a whole 8 hours anyway.

 

[treeslayer]

for that rate,they usually don't have their own gear,they need a ride,have a drug habit or get real sloppy the closer it gets to happy hour.

i have my own gear and insurance and i'm safe and stone cold sober.i think $100 an hour is more than fair.it rarely takes a whole 8 hours anyway.

I think ya might have missed the point. He pays $300 for an 8 hour day, and wants 8 hours work from the climber, because THAT'S the deal.

I know what you're saying, though. If I go out to hit a tree for one of my contacts, it ain't gonna take 8 hours. That's when we need the $100 p/h.
we put trees down safely and fast, and deserve to get paid well. work 3-4 hours and hammer a $2000 tree? uh, PAY ME.

kind of the ol' apples and oranges thing.

 

[Blakesmaster]

How can anyone call themselves a climber and not have their own gear? Compared to a lot of dudes I'm a newbie off the ground but I'd never climb in someone else's gear. If they don't have their own equipment they're nothing more than a groundie with nutz and should be payed far less than $300 a day.

 

[STLfirewood]

I think ya might have missed the point. He pays $300 for an 8 hour day, and wants 8 hours work from the climber, because THAT'S the deal.

I know what you're saying, though. If I go out to hit a tree for one of my contacts, it ain't gonna take 8 hours. That's when we need the $100 p/h.
we put trees down safely and fast, and deserve to get paid well. work 3-4 hours and hammer a $2000 tree? uh, PAY ME.

kind of the ol' apples and oranges thing.

I have no problem paying for a whole day if you get the job done faster. If it's a big expensive removal I don;t mind paying a little extra. Some times I'll set a couple jobs up and we might hit 3-4 houses. He'll go with dad and another helper to keep the ground clear and I'll be doing clean up as they work ahead. If he does this I pay extra for fuel for him driving his own truck.

Scott

 

[STLfirewood]

How can anyone call themselves a climber and not have their own gear? Compared to a lot of dudes I'm a newbie off the ground but I'd never climb in someone else's gear. If they don't have their own equipment they're nothing more than a groundie with nutz and should be payed far less than $300 a day.

He has only worked for one other person and that guy bought his gear to start out with. He bought a stump grinding business and pretty much quit climbing. Now he climbs for either his old boss or for me when the stump business is slow. I have gear and his old boss has the other set of gear that he uses. He's never needed to buy any. He's actually a really good climber just never needed his own gear.


Scott

 

[Slvrmple72]

Sounds like he wants more money so he can start his own tree business!

 

[fishercat]

i hear what you are saying as well.

I think ya might have missed the point. He pays $300 for an 8 hour day, and wants 8 hours work from the climber, because THAT'S the deal.

I know what you're saying, though. If I go out to hit a tree for one of my contacts, it ain't gonna take 8 hours. That's when we need the $100 p/h.
we put trees down safely and fast, and deserve to get paid well. work 3-4 hours and hammer a $2000 tree? uh, PAY ME.

kind of the ol' apples and oranges thing.

i understand it's regional as well.if i was down south (depends where)i'd probably charge less.not that the gear costs less but everything else sure does.

 

[Little Monkey]

:monkey: for 300 euro a day i am expected to carry everything from wedges and jacks for felling to big shots and rigging gear to rig anything from flying foxes to heavy timber, full selection of saws ms200s,460s,660s,880s, plus a big set of balls to climb anything and the knowledge to tackle and complete anything, safely and quickly, also i carry my own insurance, which covers me. up to 20
yes 20 million euro . but i like to do it right and have a good name for it and am employed all over the country as a climber, as usual there are lots of
casual climbers who will climb for about 120-150 a day bring only a harness and rope climb slow know bugger all about sectioning a tree think they are gods gift to the climbing world and think insurance is an urban legend.

 

[fishercat]

i hear ya.

How can anyone call themselves a climber and not have their own gear? Compared to a lot of dudes I'm a newbie off the ground but I'd never climb in someone else's gear. If they don't have their own equipment they're nothing more than a groundie with nutz and should be payed far less than $300 a day.

a company i know here uses a guy that wants 3-400 a day cash at the end of the day.he told me he owns a couple bags of clothes and a cell phone.he has no equipment at all,NONE! demands an ms200t but doesn't use a lanyard.also wants lunch and coffee.and you have to pick him up and drop him off.
he's ok in the first half of the day,gets real sloppy the second half.i have watched him smash fences,sheds,and break sidewalks.took the top of a pine out one day because he didn't want to hook up to the crane that was sitting right next to the tree.so the wires came down,transformers blew,firetrucks came,he still got paid.amazing.

other than that,he's a great climber when he's not in jail or rehab.when you pay him at the end of the day,you never know if you'll see him the next morning.if he does,he needs money for smokes and coffee.

sounds to good to be true i know.but it is.

 

[1savagehunter]

That's just sick

Here I am with the gear, hard work ethic, never used drugs or been in jail and I can't find a steady climbing job let alone even ground work. That just sucks ... ok I've had my rant ... better get back to work here

 

[treeslayer]

Here I am with the gear, hard work ethic, never used drugs or been in jail and I can't find a steady climbing job let alone even ground work. That just sucks ... ok I've had my rant ... better get back to work here

Travel to a hurricane, find the sleaziest motel you can and hang out one night.

go to work the next day with the guys who have the least amount of teeth in their head, return to the motel and smoke the days proceeds. all of it.

repeat. over and over.

then you will have the requisite experience.:bang:

Brother, keep plugging, you'll get yours. with a name like savage hunter, ya gotta be an ok guy.

 

[(WLL)]

i used ta charge $450 per job/day (8hrs) if u are a contract climber u should have your own insurance policy of at least $500,000. plan on getting all the nasty **** that other full time climbers can not/will not do. also plan on traveling so u can stay busy. i am no longer a contract climber and work full time with a small company. its much safer/steady and im home every night i no longer spend to make and get less more often. i have put 200,000 miles on a new truck in a year chasing work all over the usa. im much happier now!!