crane newbie

[oldirty]

Although I would assume its going to hinder you making a cut really low to the ground? Is there more?

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kinda hard to describe.... but say you blocking down wood. you make your face cut and on the angle cut because of the half wrap you half to reposition to comfortably make the cut. so it goes something like a quick backbar flat cut and than a quick saw flip and then cut the angle without moving. bang, a perfect notch without moving too much. with the full wrap you can stay right where you are on that angle cut because the extra bar and easily cut.

or say you out on a limb and you reaching to make a cut because of that wrap you can cut from the clutch side and do it without having to change your positioning. or if you on the ground and you know the once the wood is cut it'll go somewhere and angrily. the half wrap is going to force you to cut from one side of the saw and that side could be the danger side.... instead you get to cut on the clutch side and be able to be not in the bite so to speak.

regarding the flush stump cut, yeah you do lose some ability to get real low but i hate real low cut into the stump because that is where all the crap is that'll dull a chain. one way i try to get low is to find the lowest part of the stump and put the saw tip there. that way once the cut is made its the contour of the ground that dictates stump height. totally flat surface and sure there'll be a 3 or 4 inch high stump and if thats the case i hope the salesman sold the stumps! but i look at that as NMP. not my problem.

do me a favor reg, and just give it a shot. i promise you that climbing with a full wrap opens up a whole new set of cuts for in the tree. i won't climb with out one now.... unless i have to that is (marquis's 395xp has a half wrap as does my ms660) but my climbing saw does! (371xp personal and 372xpw for the company saw)

 

[superjunior]

Ya man,still see them around from time to time. From Seattle to Ohio, she better be hot. No other reason to make that move

family issues man, had to go back. i did meet my bride here and yeppers she's pretty darn hot. Still miss Seattle though..
Tried contacting Rodney and Jim several times with no success, those old coots got to be older then dirt by now. Hope they're doin well

 

[chris_girard]

63 posts in 8 years, chris? whats up with that, you only hang here when reg is around? lol.

you coming back down this way anytime soon?

Yeah, I don't post here often Justin, though I've been a member for years...I almost always just post on the Buzz, but this thread seemed so interesting that I couldn't resist it, LOL.

My own schedule is slowing up now, so for sure I'll be coming down to see you guys soon hopefully.

 

[NCTREE]

I'm studying for this cert myself, taking the test next weds. So what do you think of it so far?

 

[treevet]

I'm studying for this cert myself, taking the test next weds. So what do you think of it so far?

I think the material is very well presented and, although nothing earth shattering, well connected to form an overall good teaching tool. Bit steep on price but that excludes those not totally commited. Having to renew for the same price in 4 years and the ceu's nec. add to the package. Kudos to PNW ISA for stepping up to take the lead on developing maybe the first of many more specified (for specialists) ISA Certifications.

Where you goin? Must be Ky. Test is on Thu. Review is Wed and half on Thu. Maybe I see you there. Pm me. You get a clinometer yet?

 

[treevet]

Just picked up a crane last week. Got it from a friend of mine who got himself a bigger one. I use him on jobs when a crane is needed and the little experience I have using one is from him telling me where to place the straps, make the cuts, ect.. I gotta admit it makes me very nervous and making big cuts over my head is very unnerving. We used it on a few jobs last week and oh boy is it a time saver. don't have much experience with one though and either does one of my ground guys who is now the crane operator. we're both kind of learning together. The basics seem to be about the same but this is a whole new ball game really. The few jobs we did last week seem to go real smooth with us just taking our time and good communication. A good rule of thumb I've always kinda went by is smaller is usually safer, not about to try testing limits here.

So any advise for this crane newbie? Any do's and don'ts you want to throw out there, I'm all ears.We'll be using it on a job at a church tommorro. nasty maple take down - tops are all rotted with one broken out and sitting on the roof, cabled...will be able to use the bucket truck on this one though. thanks ahead
Dan

Didn't have time to play yesterday but in keeping with the topic....the best way to get better OPERATING (your) crane is PRACTICE. I have been operating in a small lot til now for years and ye ...err decades. I do some firewood with Timberwolf stuff and have a bin that helps move a half cord into trucks. My gm is constantly moving around logs, huge bins stuffed with firewood, the splitter, the conveyor, the sprayer, the small (Biggie's now) grinder....all in extremely tight confines...

Many trucks and equipment and a building, fence, a protruding expensive security light etc etc would get damaged with any mistake. Great way to learn how to operate. Practice makes perfect.

Same thing with you climbing off crano. Practice practice... leave the bucket home sometimes even if you can use it and give you and your op a chance to practice. All the vids in the world and seminars lack the best learning opportunity and that is hands on practice and time (hours) in.

Also memorize the chart not just refer to it. It can be done. Memorize some of the more common in your area log weights from lthe Green Log Weight Chart as well. On a small crane like yours a lot of finesse is possible from "feel" with time. You can really feel the crane move with a lot of time unlike the giant ones. Kinda like using a small crappie fishing rod compared to a surf casting rod.

 

[NCTREE]

I think the material is very well presented and, although nothing earth shattering, well connected to form an overall good teaching tool. Bit steep on price but that excludes those not totally commited. Having to renew for the same price in 4 years and the ceu's nec. add to the package. Kudos to PNW ISA for stepping up to take the lead on developing maybe the first of many more specified (for specialists) ISA Certifications.

Where you goin? Must be Ky. Test is on Thu. Review is Wed and half on Thu. Maybe I see you there. Pm me. You get a clinometer yet?

I thinks it's presented well myself, and i have the basic concept down from my experience thus so far. Alot of new material for me so I hope i'm not in over my head with this. I up for the challenge though so we will see.

I'm taking the course in philly next tuesday and wednesday. Yes I have a clinometer, bought it off ebay for $55.

Good luck!, not that you need it

 

[treevet]

I thinks it's presented well myself, and i have the basic concept down from my experience thus so far. Alot of new material for me so I hope i'm not in over my head with this. I up for the challenge though so we will see.

I'm taking the course in philly next tuesday and wednesday. Yes I have a clinometer, bought it off ebay for $55.

Good luck!, not that you need it

Good luck to you to NC. Man you are really committed, I am only driving about 30 minutes. Prob take the crotch rocket.

10 Ceu's too and this is like an old Shigo seminar in Boone N.C., only 20 students per class.

Maybe I should take the crano to stay on topic lol.

Really looking forward to it.

 

[superjunior]

Didn't have time to play yesterday but in keeping with the topic....the best way to get better OPERATING (your) crane is PRACTICE. I have been operating in a small lot til now for years and ye ...err decades. I do some firewood with Timberwolf stuff and have a bin that helps move a half cord into trucks. My gm is constantly moving around logs, huge bins stuffed with firewood, the splitter, the conveyor, the sprayer, the small (Biggie's now) grinder....all in extremely tight confines...

Many trucks and equipment and a building, fence, a protruding expensive security light etc etc would get damaged with any mistake. Great way to learn how to operate. Practice makes perfect.

Same thing with you climbing off crano. Practice practice... leave the bucket home sometimes even if you can use it and give you and your op a chance to practice. All the vids in the world and seminars lack the best learning opportunity and that is hands on practice and time (hours) in.

Also memorize the chart not just refer to it. It can be done. Memorize some of the more common in your area log weights from lthe Green Log Weight Chart as well. On a small crane like yours a lot of finesse is possible from "feel" with time. You can really feel the crane move with a lot of time unlike the giant ones. Kinda like using a small crappie fishing rod compared to a surf casting rod.

sounds like some solid advice man. thanks