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Guys, I need your help. Huztl wanted to download some of my videos and use on their website. I told the a hard NO. Please help me keep an eye out.

They must not understand the value of something. I offered to make some for them that they would own. They are used to copying things. I made those to help people not help them. Please help me by not letting them get by with anything.

That bugs me. Plenty of guys making videos why take mine?

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Guys, I need your help. Huztl wanted to download some of my videos and use on their website. I told the a hard NO. Please help me keep an eye out.

They must not understand the value of something. I offered to make some for them that they would own. They are used to copying things. I made those to help people not help them. Please help me by not letting them get by with anything.

That bugs me. Plenty of guys making videos why take mine?

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I don't know but at least they asked permission.
 
I finally got around to putting the bar and chain on it. The adjuster works if the bar nuts are REALLY loose.
It oils but not very much, it's turned to Max. It came up a storm so I didn't get to mess with it anymoreView attachment 657736
On videos, let them steal yours. Them asking is meaningless. The fact they did not know any better worries me. No one in thier right mind would say yes take my work.

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On videos, let them steal yours. Them asking is meaningless. The fact they did not know any better worries me. No one in thier right mind would say yes take my work.

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I understand your concern. I was saying they did ask, instead of just stealing them. I wasn't suggesting that you give them permission.
I don't know what their intentions are. What do you think?
 
I finally got around to putting the bar and chain on it. The adjuster works if the bar nuts are REALLY loose.
It oils but not very much, it's turned to Max. It came up a storm so I didn't get to mess with it anymoreView attachment 657736
I pulled my clutch off and found that for sure the wire that is around the plastic worm gear that engages the clutch spins freely. New it turned pretty easy. So your oil pump is not being driven by the worm gear with the wire spinning around. So the fix? I tried smashing the wire ring smaller to fit the plastic tighter. It has worked but it is very temporary till the OEM worm drive and wire arrives. The Huztl wire does not hold its spring tension at all. So I highly recommend getting the oem gear.
 
I pulled my clutch off and found that for sure the wire that is around the plastic worm gear that engages the clutch spins freely. New it turned pretty easy. So your oil pump is not being driven by the worm gear with the wire spinning around. So the fix? I tried smashing the wire ring smaller to fit the plastic tighter. It has worked but it is very temporary till the OEM worm drive and wire arrives. The Huztl wire does not hold its spring tension at all. So I highly recommend getting the oem gear.
We have learned quite a bit over time. These details matter. Wonder how much it would cost them to check every 200th and pull them and correct it. We pay twice, sometimes three times. Once when we buy it, second when we ask for one that works and three when we hear the ridiculous response our engineer say it should work, hope you understand. And we go buy an oem and tell out forum mates, warning, warning. Sometimes the defect causes great ruin. All over a lack of quality control process that is recognized by the Free World as actually working.

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Got my kit in the mail, let the fun begin.
Measure the piston / cylinder & ring gap:
Piston 53.95mm mostly consistent
Cylinder top and mid ~53.97-53.98mm bottom skirt ~54.01-54.02mm HMMM maybe thats why they suck
Ring gap: .3mm & .35mm measured mid cylinder

Anyone have input on this other then run it for a bit then check or get the meteor kit?
 
I would really like to find some small wood. I have some big logs i have been saving for slabs. To break it in I would like some 8_10in wood. Quick in out for three tanks

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Well Bedford I discovered today when I was running mine this morning that I had a base gasket leek it wasn't bad enough to hurt anything lucky I could tell right away from how it was acting coming out of the cut weird how it just started to leek all is good again I put a new base not a farmertec one ether I put a oem Stihl base gasket in and used a very very thin lair of fuel resistant and heat resistant sealer have to let it sit for 24 hours before I can run it again so out comes the old 064av tomorrow. Lol
 
Got my kit in the mail, let the fun begin.
Measure the piston / cylinder & ring gap:
Piston 53.95mm mostly consistent
Cylinder top and mid ~53.97-53.98mm bottom skirt ~54.01-54.02mm HMMM maybe thats why they suck
Ring gap: .3mm & .35mm measured mid cylinder

Anyone have input on this other then run it for a bit then check or get the meteor kit?
You can run with the farmertec cylinder kit but in my opinion I wouldn't waste my time I would spend the extra money and get the meteor cylinder kit for it.
 
Got my kit in the mail, let the fun begin.
Measure the piston / cylinder & ring gap:
Piston 53.95mm mostly consistent
Cylinder top and mid ~53.97-53.98mm bottom skirt ~54.01-54.02mm HMMM maybe thats why they suck
Ring gap: .3mm & .35mm measured mid cylinder

Anyone have input on this other then run it for a bit then check or get the meteor kit?
I would run it. Cylinders are always larger at the bottom than the top. Dirt bikes jet skis all the same. Yours sounds fairly consistent to. Just put some time in on the chamfer around all the ports. Make sure everything is beveled nice top and bottom as to not have anywhere a ring can get hung up. Run 32-1 and let r rip!
 
If your measurements are goot that has too much clearance at the bottom. Thats probably why alot of guys are getting weird wear patterns at the bottom of the intake skirt. Ie piston is rocking in the bore. Do me a favor take the piston no rings put it in the bore and use feeler gauges to measure the clearance then flip the piston upside down and measure again. I wouldnt want anymore then .005
 
If your measurements are goot that has too much clearance at the bottom. Thats probably why alot of guys are getting weird wear patterns at the bottom of the intake skirt. Ie piston is rocking in the bore. Do me a favor take the piston no rings put it in the bore and use feeler gauges to measure the clearance then flip the piston upside down and measure again. I wouldnt want anymore then .005

Ok I will double check.

Does anyone have a current IPL for the 660? The one I have is from 2004 and it doesn't quite match some of the part numbers on this list to replace with OEM parts (thank you @Bedford T ):

#9512 003 3281 - OEM piston bearing
#1122 034 1500 - wrist pin OEM
#1122 160 5400 - Brake Band
#1122 160 5500 - Brake Tension Spring
#1128 020 9400 - Decomp Valve

Fuel System:
#1122 353 9200 - Gromet
#0000 350 5802 - Vent
#4224 122 3900 - Elbow Connector
#1124 358 7700 - Fuel Tank line
#0000 350 0509 - OEM fuel cap

#1122 025 2200 - decomp plug
#9512 933 2381 - Clutch Bearing
#1128 160 5000 - Brake Lever
#1122 195 0400 - Starter Rope rotor
#1122 190 3400 - Elastostart Hangle Assembly
#1122 351 0901 - Tank Guard part
 
Ok I will double check.

Does anyone have a current IPL for the 660? The one I have is from 2004 and it doesn't quite match some of the part numbers on this list to replace with OEM parts (thank you @Bedford T ):

#9512 003 3281 - OEM piston bearing
#1122 034 1500 - wrist pin OEM
#1122 160 5400 - Brake Band
#1122 160 5500 - Brake Tension Spring
#1128 020 9400 - Decomp Valve

Fuel System:
#1122 353 9200 - Gromet
#0000 350 5802 - Vent
#4224 122 3900 - Elbow Connector
#1124 358 7700 - Fuel Tank line
#0000 350 0509 - OEM fuel cap

#1122 025 2200 - decomp plug
#9512 933 2381 - Clutch Bearing
#1128 160 5000 - Brake Lever
#1122 195 0400 - Starter Rope rotor
#1122 190 3400 - Elastostart Hangle Assembly
#1122 351 0901 - Tank Guard part
Check your messages for an ipl

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Ok I will double check.

Does anyone have a current IPL for the 660? The one I have is from 2004 and it doesn't quite match some of the part numbers on this list to replace with OEM parts (thank you @Bedford T ):

#9512 003 3281 - OEM piston bearing
#1122 034 1500 - wrist pin OEM
#1122 160 5400 - Brake Band
#1122 160 5500 - Brake Tension Spring
#1128 020 9400 - Decomp Valve

Fuel System:
#1122 353 9200 - Gromet
#0000 350 5802 - Vent
#4224 122 3900 - Elbow Connector
#1124 358 7700 - Fuel Tank line
#0000 350 0509 - OEM fuel cap

#1122 025 2200 - decomp plug
#9512 933 2381 - Clutch Bearing
#1128 160 5000 - Brake Lever
#1122 195 0400 - Starter Rope rotor
#1122 190 3400 - Elastostart Hangle Assembly
#1122 351 0901 - Tank Guard part
Couple of things, the worm gear should be added and the carb from mittys.

On the cylinder. If you are replacing the other parts that means you care. You want to feel like that saw is dependable. Something to really be proud of and use for a long time.

I had never had a new oem quailty cylinder in my hand until recently. Had used ones when working on a saw. But I was able to put the meteor side by side with the farmertec and it was remarkable the differences.

Money does not grow on trees but if you do it now before prices go up you are going to have a great saw with that topend.

If the deadline was not coming up waiting if financials we're in favor would be ok. But plowing head, you will be done. You will be ahead of the game. You can come hang out here and help other people get where you are. Yours will be working.

So your decision should yes if you can afford too.

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Well Bedford I discovered today when I was running mine this morning that I had a base gasket leek it wasn't bad enough to hurt anything lucky I could tell right away from how it was acting coming out of the cut weird how it just started to leek all is good again I put a new base not a farmertec one ether I put a oem Stihl base gasket in and used a very very thin lair of fuel resistant and heat resistant sealer have to let it sit for 24 hours before I can run it again so out comes the old 064av tomorrow. Lol
Glad you caught it. I used some dirko on the case, laid my gasket on and let it dry and then put on the top. Since I was putting on that piece of art, I felt the deck was going to be flat and did not use any sealant on top side.

I will pressure check it soon.

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Glad you caught it. I used some dirko on the case, laid my gasket on and let it dry and then put on the top. Since I was putting on that piece of art, I felt the deck was going to be flat and did not use any sealant on top side.

I will pressure check it soon.

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The stuff I used is like the most expensive permatex that I normally use for cars this go around its very nice stuff and go's on sooper thin very heat resistant and fuel resistant but takes a while to dry good stuff for this application and the gasket is a coated one so it shouldn't give me any problems now.
 

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