Thanks for the info as well. I went to baileys site, and after having to change several settings on my computer, I was allowed to go in and go shopping. I selected two different ones, went to check out, and found my $5.80 purchase would cost $5.95 to ship! I guess I will just to go an (egads!) actual store to buy one. I am glad you guys mentioned them working on certain chains, I guess I will try and take something with me to actually look at.