Firewood transporting in Ohio

[jdboy9]

I heard months back that there was going to be an issue with transporting firewood across county lines but really didn't think much of it. That is until today when I was driving down the highway and a big sign said no transporting of firewood past this line!! Apparently the ash beetle is causing problems and that is the reasoning behind it.

Is this happening anywhere else? What about mulch wouldn't that be a problem too?

 

[Mr. Firewood]

www.emeraldashborer.info

well it is a fine line if you want to risk it go ahead, I try and stay safe and keep it within the quarantine zone with firewood but it is spreading too fast right now and there is word on OHP's pulling over loads of wood and mulch to try and catch the violators

 

[ChuckinOhio]

On Southbound I-75 right on the Miami to Montgomery county line there is a large prominently posted sign warning of a fine of up to $4,000 dollars for violating the quarantine.

It says FIREWOOD, and ASH WOOD PRODUCTS.


Has anyone else seen any similar signs in their area if you are near a quarantined zone?

I never haul wood down the interstate to begin with, but I really wouldn't chance it now, the Staties around here are like super vigilant.


Chuck

 

[Butch(OH)]

Ya just shows how swift our government is doesn't it? Cant haul a piece of firewood or your going to get a stiff fine but the clearing companies, large and small along with the pulp guys and mulch boys can haul beetles anywhere they want to and dump them out. It is also legal to haul wood products (and beetles) from one end of the county to the other and deposit them right next to their imaginary line in the sand, where is the magic in a county line?? I am in Knox and we should be about next on the quarantine list. Wanna stop human spread of the beetle? make it illegal to move any wood product period, BUT what a minute, that would affect commerce wouldnt it??cant have that. All the ODNR socialists are interested in protecting is their ODNR job.

 

[ChuckinOhio]

It's always all about the revenue here in the good ole Peoples Republic aint it!( Speaking of which, you been to the DMV lately? OUCH!!!)

Wont be too long and they will be in your yard examining your woodpile and taxing you according to species cut.


Chuck

 

[jdboy9]

I'm glad you guys are thinking the same way I am. I wasn't going to bring up a conspiracy till someone else did but I truly believe its all about the revenue or lack of due to firewood sales. More wood means less oil burning.

I was in walmart the other day and they had wood from Kentucky????? How is that possible.

 

[ChuckinOhio]

There is no restriction on transporting wood into a quarantined zone, where you run into trouble is transporting it out of the quarantined area.

You can move wood around within a quarantined area also, just don't cross the county line and you are safe.

Won't be too long now and there will be some kind of a use tax or an environmental impact fee assessed to those that own wood boilers and fireplaces.

They will find a way to get the lost revenue from the utility companies back out of you, just wait and see.

Ohio just passed a law last year dealing with recreational fires. They mandate the size of fire that you can have on your own property, and basically bonfires are illegal now. I see them applying some measurement to boilers and woodstoves and taxing you according to capacity, assuming that they even deem it appropriate for you to own it in the first place.


Chuck

 

[turnkey4099]

Sorta sideways on the topic but...

Washington (state) has made several attempts in the past several years to require water meters on private wells. Supposedly to monitor the useage of ground water. Anyone care to bet how soon they would be putting charge on the amount used?

Harry K

 

[habanero]

How strange this topic just came up now on here. My wife and I will be moving to the Burton area this summer, and I was looking at state park information this morning and came across the firewood quarantine information.

 

[rguseman]

Typical of government in general. Here in Wisconsin the proposed "solution" if the emerald ash borer is found is to cut down every ash tree within a certain radius of the affected area. Problem is that the solution has not worked anywhere it has been tried. So far I have not read anything that would indicate that they are looking for any alternative solutions. Apparently the WDNR wants to kill the trees before the borer. I guess the upside will be plenty of ash for firewood if you live within a quarantined area. :crazy1:

 

[Oly's Stump]

Off this subject a little but you guys should be happy that you don't live in my area. There's a firewood dealer here that has a firewood processor and sells firewood. Tree guys drop their logs at his place which is zoned Commercial (out away from any residential area). The local township government fined him big time because they say he is manufacturing firewood so it needs to be zoned manufacturing. He fought it in the courts but lost and was fined thousands of dollars. He now has to move his operation. Thats government for you at work again!

 

[Oly's Stump]

As for the ash trees in my area, they say that they will all be dead within 5 years because of the beetle.

 

[Grace Tree]

I was driving down the highway and a big sign said no transporting of firewood past this line!!

Hey. Where was that sign at; if you don't mind telling me? In Geauga?
Thanks,
Phil

 

[rguseman]

As for the ash trees in my area, they say that they will all be dead within 5 years because of the beetle.

Since you're in the biz and in WI do you know what the DNR is doing with the trees they are cutting down for testing purposes? You would think that as this thing cut through the other states they could have found a natural predator or pesticide application (I know one exists but it is expensive and has to be reapplied) to the beetle.

 

[Oly's Stump]

I don't know what the DNR is doing with the ash trees. I do see alot of ash trees that they are marking (debarking) along the roads. I heard the same thing that spraying was to expensive. Ash trees are one of my favorite trees but in the coming future the tree business will be picking up because of them all dying.

 

[upandcommer]

My parents live on county line road i.e. their side of the road is quarantined the other side is not. I happened to ask my brother about the sign that went up outside of town about 6 months ago since most of my firewood was coming from my mother property. My brother (the chief of police in said town) told me this "I checked with odnr for ya and they told me as long as you are cutting in quarantine country and using in quarantine country you are safe. Cut in non quarantine country and take to quarantine country again safe. If however you cut in quarantine country not so much as a stick of maple is aloud into quarantine country unless you pay the $75.00 fee and attend the odnr class on species identification and elimination of the emerald ash bore and such and can certify you are not harvesting offending materials." SO that is the information str8 from the horses mouth all boils down to money in the end and class enrollments.

 

[flewism]

I read in the paper about a week ago the MSU has had some success with a pesticide. It made the paper because they are out of the "lab" phase, and setup testing in 6 controlled woodlots for field testing. I believe it is a 24 month test.

 

[TimberJack_7]

Has Geauga county been quarantined yet? I pull a lot of firewood out of Bainbridge every year and run 422 and some back roads to Middlefield, actually just over the Trumbull county line on 87. Would sure hate to get pulled over for hauling firewood.

 

[Mr. Firewood]

Has Geauga county been quarantined yet? I pull a lot of firewood out of Bainbridge every year and run 422 and some back roads to Middlefield, actually just over the Trumbull county line on 87. Would sure hate to get pulled over for hauling firewood.

Cuyahoga, Defiance, Delaware, Erie, Fulton, Hardin, Henry, Logan, Lorain, Lucas, Marion, Medina, Mercer, Miami, Ottawa, Paulding, Sandusky, Seneca, Warren, Williams, Wood, and Wyandot counties are all in the red zone

It is illegal to move ash trees, ash logs, ash branches, ash wood chips, ash bark, and all hardwood firewood out of Ohio's quarantined areas. These materials can move freely within, but cannot leave, contiguous quarantined areas. Note: A federal quarantine prohibits the movement of ash tree materials and hardwood firewood out of the state of Ohio without federal certification. This does not change Ohio's quarantine, which still makes it illegal to take ash tree materials and hardwood firewood out of infested counties.

 

[jdboy9]

There is one eastbound 422 right around the chagrin river road overpass I believe is the name of the road, basically in between 91 and 306. I just saw one by the Home depot on 43 in aurora.