Steve NW WI
Unwanted Riff Raff.
Im gonna have to send this sucker into the Politics and Religion dungeon if this keeps up.
I am on a government plan that seems successful. I followed their advice on retirement and was able to do so. Our interstate and highways are pretty good. They were planned. Our local road system is also good except for the forest roads because funding has been cut off for maintenance. Our school system is good, and fair. The Post Office does a good job overall. I could go on and on.
What about airports? Our socialist power company is the best I've ever had as far as price and few power outages. Our highway dept. keeps the mountain pass in pretty darn good shape during the winter. They've got to deal with avalanches and massive snowfalls.
Nope, don't say that all gubmint is bad. Otherwise, if you believe that, don't cry for help when your house is on fire, you are stuck in unplowed snow, need a cop, etc.
Belly aching about government is in style on this forum and many others. But constructive suggestions or perhaps finding out truth in many questionable postings seems to be lacking.
Im gonna have to send this sucker into the Politics and Religion dungeon if this keeps up.
The only thing you forgot to mention is the fact that trees are the worlds natural filter, if you can burn the fire hot enough and clean enough you may be able to clean up the the atmosphere a bit withFirst: Wow!...If this isn't extreme Gov over reach I don't know what is!...Another massive con job. This is about the juggernaut that is government...nothing else. But there is something I haven't seen much of yet and is the bane of the EPA/tree-hugger crowd: Burning wood in a wood stove is CARBON NEUTRAL!...When using a wood stove you are not putting any new carbon into the atmosphere. You are merely putting back the carbon that tree has absorbed over the years. This is the same amount of carbon being released that that tree would release were it to simply rot on the ground in the forest. And I don't think this matters whether you are using an EPA certified stove or an old wood stove you put together in your shop. It is not a question of burning efficiency. Burning wood is simply carbon neutral any way you do it. New stoves may be more efficient and you may actually use less wood to produce heat but it is a moot point. Debate your neighbors over that one. Do you want more Gov in your lives? Frankly I think they're going to have a very hard sell here. Then again I don't think CO2 should be considered a "green house" gas. Without it no trees/vegetation would grow...no oxygen would be produced...no liberals could exhale...Seems we're getting to the point where we've almost had enough of this government...They have no concept of why they exist or what they're responsibilities are re the Constitution.
I really wasn't going to reply to this thread simply because I don't do politics or religion, but one thing I am not seeing deals with cost. Not the cost to have all that junk installed and maintained, but rather the cost of firewood.
Having computers in our stoves that would monitor it's usage could also be used to determine how much wood your actually burning or total BTU output. Do you really think the government would pass on the potential to take even more money out of our pockets? So even if you received the firewood already cut, split, and stacked for free, the government would step in and say "You burned X many cord producing X many BTU's so you have to pay X many dollars."
Monitoring efficiency in my opinion is just a facade for opening the door so they would have the ability to charge us for what we use much like the electric or fuel suppliers. If you let the government open the door even a crack, they will shove it wide open and we will be left to foot the bill for them to line their pockets even more. Not to mention their habitual mismanagement of funds we are forced to give them.
I am on a government plan that seems successful. I followed their advice on retirement and was able to do so. Our interstate and highways are pretty good. They were planned. Our local road system is also good except for the forest roads because funding has been cut off for maintenance. Our school system is good, and fair. The Post Office does a good job overall. I could go on and on.
What about airports? Our socialist power company is the best I've ever had as far as price and few power outages. Our highway dept. keeps the mountain pass in pretty darn good shape during the winter. They've got to deal with avalanches and massive snowfalls.
Nope, don't say that all gubmint is bad. Otherwise, if you believe that, don't cry for help when your house is on fire, you are stuck in unplowed snow, need a cop, etc.
Belly aching about government is in style on this forum and many others. But constructive suggestions or perhaps finding out truth in many questionable postings seems to be lacking.
My antivirus said that the link originally posted was infected with a virus. Just so you know....
Probably some black helicopter guidance system is now on your computers???
I am on a government plan that seems successful. I followed their advice on retirement and was able to do so. Our interstate and highways are pretty good. They were planned. Our local road system is also good except for the forest roads because funding has been cut off for maintenance. Our school system is good, and fair. The Post Office does a good job overall. I could go on and on.
What about airports? Our socialist power company is the best I've ever had as far as price and few power outages. Our highway dept. keeps the mountain pass in pretty darn good shape during the winter. They've got to deal with avalanches and massive snowfalls.
Nope, don't say that all gubmint is bad. Otherwise, if you believe that, don't cry for help when your house is on fire, you are stuck in unplowed snow, need a cop, etc.
Belly aching about government is in style on this forum and many others. But constructive suggestions or perhaps finding out truth in many questionable postings seems to be lacking.
How would you feel about a nation wide wood burning appliance change out?
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