Ms200t

[tree md]

Now I like that one. But it is not even on the Husqvarna site! Wonder how they managed to build a 45 cc saw that is the same weight as their 39cc saw. Lower down shows specs for the 39cc model.. so no real specs given on the 45cc one. I sent an email to Husqvarna requesting brochure and more info on this saw.. looks like nice add.

If you find out any info on this saw I would appreciate it if you pass it on. I'm not in the market for a new climbing saw but if the saw in that ad exists I think I know what my next climbing saw will be.

 

[TreeClimber57]

If you find out any info on this saw I would appreciate it if you pass it on. I'm not in the market for a new climbing saw but if the saw in that ad exists I think I know what my next climbing saw will be.

I should have info by Tuesday as per the info on Husqvarna Customer Support response sent to me in email. I will let you know.

 

[Tang]

I a have Husky's top handle verison of the 435..called the T435 go figure.. and I love it. Lightweight fits well in my hand(s) and is extremely comfortable and a plesure to use all day. If you don't want to fork out for a 200t, a very very nice saw by the way, we too use them at work, then look at the t 435 lots of power and a great saw. Would be more then glad to provide whatever I can about the saw.

 

[tomtrees58]

Just out of curiousity,if you don't mind me asking , what do other things cost down there?
Such as :
gallon of gas?
loaf of bread ?
pack of smokes?
hourly wage for total greenhorn ''newbie '' groundie?

How much do you guys get for , let's say a queen palm trim /curbside/one year of growth on it/15-20 min job?

I just want to get an overall picture of the economy.
Is everything higher there,so it all works out in the end ,or
do they stick it to you guys for saws and stuff ?

and the woman:jawdrop: lol

 

[imagineero]

Just out of curiousity,if you don't mind me asking , what do other things cost down there?
Such as :
gallon of gas?
loaf of bread ?
pack of smokes?
hourly wage for total greenhorn ''newbie '' groundie?

How much do you guys get for , let's say a queen palm trim /curbside/one year of growth on it/15-20 min job?

I just want to get an overall picture of the economy.
Is everything higher there,so it all works out in the end ,or
do they stick it to you guys for saws and stuff ?

Bit of a mixed bag... a lot depends on your industry, and where you choose to live (much like anywhere else in the world!). gallon of gas is about $5 at the moment ($1.30/litre) but fluctuates between $5~$6. Crappy loaf of bread $2, nice wholegrain loaf about $4. Pack of smokes $15~$20. Basic labour pays pretty high compared to a lot of other jobs, about $18~$20/hour but you have to pay quite a bit of tax.

Rent varies with location. in the city, you could pay $250/week for a single room. in rural areas you might get a whole house for that. The average for a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs is probably about $350. most folks spend $150~$200/week on groceries. carton of beer is $35~$50. most guys are taking home about $600~$800/week after tax I guess for most typical jobs.

Tree work is very variable depending on location. In the richer north shore sydney suburbs you can rack it right up to $120/hour and still get work, but insurance, vehicle, registration, tax etc are all high. vehicle registration is $800/year in australia, and the total cost of ownership of a vehicle here is about $10,000/year (loan, repairs, registration, insurance, upkeep and fuel). Insurance isnt cheap, neither are chainsaws. Im up in the mountains where there isnt a lot of money around, but tre work pays quite good - $70/hour. compared to that, i get $45/hour for building and handyman type work. By comparison, I can charge $70~$80/hour for building work in the city. But the cost of living is a lot cheaper up here.

Shaun

 

[tree md]

Wow, goods are a lot more expensive there than housing. You're not going to find anything in the states for $250-$350 a month except a flop house. Sounds like your bringing in a decent wage. I guess it all evens out in the wash.

 

[tree md]

Ahh, just saw your housing figures were by the week. That is about on par with the states for decent housing. Sounds like the cost of living is quite high there. Good thing you are making a good wage.

Funny thing... No matter where you are it costs money to live...

 

[imagineero]

Ahh, just saw your housing figures were by the week. That is about on par with the states for decent housing. Sounds like the cost of living is quite high there. Good thing you are making a good wage.

Funny thing... No matter where you are it costs money to live...

You can get housing cheaper, but not decent places. like anywhere, you can always share if you havent got money.

Australia has among other countries the highest cost of living in the world, in terms of taxes, what we pay or food, accomodation and basic living. groceries, electricity and heating are on the rise. Most of this seems to be connected to our small size and high level of welfare. Nobody starves here, or is short of education or health care but it comes mostly at the cost of hardworking middle class people. Rich folks usually are smart enough to avoid taxes, and the poor are all surfing at the beach and on welfare, doing cash jobs on the side.

I spent 7 years living overseas, 5 of them in asia. I found that while people there have lower incomes, most people have savings, buy things in cash rather than on credit and are careful with their money. In Australia, most people are behind on their bills, have no savings at all, and buy everything on credit. we're a consumerist society, and economic growth is based on continuously increasing consumption. We've already bought more than we can afford, at a rate faster than what we can pay back but when people run out of money, they keep pushing more and more goods with interest free loans etc. Because the government needs to get taxes to keep the country going they keep it afloat with bailouts, stimulus packages, rebates and allowing more and more cashed up immigrants into the country, borrowing money themselves to keep the countries bank account in the black in the hope they'll be able to refill the coffers at some future date (after they've all retired)

The bubble is going to burst eventually, but those countries with more sustainable living and less growth will be the ones to survive. Me, Im thinking of heading bush, with my chainsaws of course ;-)

Shaun

 

[tree md]

You can get housing cheaper, but not decent places. like anywhere, you can always share if you havent got money.

Australia has among other countries the highest cost of living in the world, in terms of taxes, what we pay or food, accomodation and basic living. groceries, electricity and heating are on the rise. Most of this seems to be connected to our small size and high level of welfare. Nobody starves here, or is short of education or health care but it comes mostly at the cost of hardworking middle class people. Rich folks usually are smart enough to avoid taxes, and the poor are all surfing at the beach and on welfare, doing cash jobs on the side.

I spent 7 years living overseas, 5 of them in asia. I found that while people there have lower incomes, most people have savings, buy things in cash rather than on credit and are careful with their money. In Australia, most people are behind on their bills, have no savings at all, and buy everything on credit. we're a consumerist society, and economic growth is based on continuously increasing consumption. We've already bought more than we can afford, at a rate faster than what we can pay back but when people run out of money, they keep pushing more and more goods with interest free loans etc. Because the government needs to get taxes to keep the country going they keep it afloat with bailouts, stimulus packages, rebates and allowing more and more cashed up immigrants into the country, borrowing money themselves to keep the countries bank account in the black in the hope they'll be able to refill the coffers at some future date (after they've all retired)

The bubble is going to burst eventually, but those countries with more sustainable living and less growth will be the ones to survive. Me, Im thinking of heading bush, with my chainsaws of course ;-)

Shaun

Are you sure we don't live in the same country???

 

[TreeClimber57]

Australia has among other countries the highest cost of living in the world, in terms of taxes, what we pay or food, accomodation and basic living. groceries, electricity and heating are on the rise. Most of this seems to be connected to our small size and high level of welfare. Nobody starves here, or is short of education or health care but it comes mostly at the cost of hardworking middle class people. Rich folks usually are smart enough to avoid taxes, and the poor are all surfing at the beach and on welfare, doing cash jobs on the side.

Not a whole lot higher than that of Canada from the prices you show. Gasoline about the same (might be a few cents lower here but not much (we usually currently run maybe 0.95 to 1.05 per litre - which is 1/4 U.S. gallon - some parts of Canada it is running at around 1.15 a litre right now so depends on where you are) -- and considering how much oil we produce it is strange). Our electricity just went up 12%.. and everything for the most part will go up 8% on July 1st with a tax change (supposed to be no impact as taken out down the line elsewhere - right.. not sure where it is taken out of my services - just 8% more tax). Our cell phones are some of the highest in the world I think. Again, like you, small size of maybe 33 million or so.. (vs your 21 million) and the largest physical country (land mass) in the world to cover. (3,855,102 vs your 2,968,000 sq miles) (but you have a bit more land per person than us even at that ) (Russia used to be largest but since they split up we moved into 1st place there)

Like you, we are quite a bit more socialist than the U.S. and consequently our taxes reflect that.

(at least the government has not yet taken our guns away yet!!.. but some parties keep trying)

 

[TreeClimber57]

I a have Husky's top handle verison of the 435..called the T435 go figure.. and I love it. Lightweight fits well in my hand(s) and is extremely comfortable and a plesure to use all day. If you don't want to fork out for a 200t, a very very nice saw by the way, we too use them at work, then look at the t 435 lots of power and a great saw. Would be more then glad to provide whatever I can about the saw.

Just looked at it.. nice looking saw. Our local dealer never has one of these on shelf. The Stihl dealer has 200T almost all the time.

About same size as 200T, maybe a little less hp, but insignificant as per specs.

How does it really compare to 200T work wise.

 

[ozzy42]

:jawdrop:

Bit of a mixed bag... a lot depends on your industry, and where you choose to live (much like anywhere else in the world!). gallon of gas is about $5 at the moment ($1.30/litre) but fluctuates between $5~$6. Crappy loaf of bread $2, nice wholegrain loaf about $4. Pack of smokes $15~$20. Basic labour pays pretty high compared to a lot of other jobs, about $18~$20/hour but you have to pay quite a bit of tax.

Rent varies with location. in the city, you could pay $250/week for a single room. in rural areas you might get a whole house for that. The average for a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs is probably about $350. most folks spend $150~$200/week on groceries. carton of beer is $35~$50. most guys are taking home about $600~$800/week after tax I guess for most typical jobs.

Tree work is very variable depending on location. In the richer north shore sydney suburbs you can rack it right up to $120/hour and still get work, but insurance, vehicle, registration, tax etc are all high. vehicle registration is $800/year in australia, and the total cost of ownership of a vehicle here is about $10,000/year (loan, repairs, registration, insurance, upkeep and fuel). Insurance isnt cheap, neither are chainsaws. Im up in the mountains where there isnt a lot of money around, but tre work pays quite good - $70/hour. compared to that, i get $45/hour for building and handyman type work. By comparison, I can charge $70~$80/hour for building work in the city. But the cost of living is a lot cheaper up here.

Shaun

You can get housing cheaper, but not decent places. like anywhere, you can always share if you havent got money.

Australia has among other countries the highest cost of living in the world, in terms of taxes, what we pay or food, accomodation and basic living. groceries, electricity and heating are on the rise. Most of this seems to be connected to our small size and high level of welfare. Nobody starves here, or is short of education or health care but it comes mostly at the cost of hardworking middle class people. Rich folks usually are smart enough to avoid taxes, and the poor are all surfing at the beach and on welfare, doing cash jobs on the side.

I spent 7 years living overseas, 5 of them in asia. I found that while people there have lower incomes, most people have savings, buy things in cash rather than on credit and are careful with their money. In Australia, most people are behind on their bills, have no savings at all, and buy everything on credit. we're a consumerist society, and economic growth is based on continuously increasing consumption. We've already bought more than we can afford, at a rate faster than what we can pay back but when people run out of money, they keep pushing more and more goods with interest free loans etc. Because the government needs to get taxes to keep the country going they keep it afloat with bailouts, stimulus packages, rebates and allowing more and more cashed up immigrants into the country, borrowing money themselves to keep the countries bank account in the black in the hope they'll be able to refill the coffers at some future date (after they've all retired)

The bubble is going to burst eventually, but those countries with more sustainable living and less growth will be the ones to survive. Me, Im thinking of heading bush, with my chainsaws of course ;-)

Shaun

Thanks for the replies.I just wanted to get a realistic comparison.
I have a cousin that cuts trees in a rural town in a midwest state,and I have been there to do some work with him,and visa versa. I tell him tree work sucks $$ wise where he is ,and he agrees ,compared to south Fl..
But on the other hand. He says he can't figure out how a working man can get by with the COL where I live.
I guess , no matter where you live ,it is what it is,and you play the hand you are dealt.



BTW,Tomtrees wanted me to ask you about the price of women:jawdrop:

 

[treeclimber101]

i use a 192t, but then i live in australia where a 192 is about $600 and a 200t is $1500. If i lived in the states and could get a new 200t for $600 or less brand new, I'd definitely buy it. even worn out second hand 200t's go for $800~$900 here.

Having said that, the 192t isn't a bad saw. I used to use 200t's in new zealand when all i did was forestry pruning for furniture grade pine plantations. We got paid $1/tree, and had to remove every branch within a 2metre range, sometimes 15~20 branches. I'd start that saw up in the morning, redline it to warm it up then run it at redline all day and it would never skip a beat. 150~200 trees a day on big days. Most of those saws would get used 2~3 years at that rate, then sold for $800.

I dont do much tree work now, and what i do is generally from the ground. my 192t gets occasional in tree use (2 or 3 times a year?) for tricky trees that need to be taken down piece by piece, but my core business is building houses, not cutting down trees. I run a 12" bar on it, and it runs just fine. The 200t only has maybe 20% more power, what you really pay for is the durability (steel dogs vs plastic etc). If you need bigger than a 12" bar, then you need bigger than a small saw, go for a 310 ;-)

Increasingly, i find myself carrying that little 192t in the trunk of my car. Its such a handy little saw, and it takes up no space at all. I store it with a sharp chain and a full tank of gas and bar oil. When i bought it, i thought of it as a real dinky little plastic saw that i might use for a bit of pruning but it always starts up real easy, and it gets through some big stuff if you arent hard on it. I'd rate it every bit as good as chinese made rear handled saws you buy at hardware stores up to 40cc, It's saved the day more than a few times with firewood, helping out a friend, pruning and felling smaller trees.

My only other saw is an 044 though, and that thing is just too big to carry up a tree. if you've got the cash, get a 200t and you wont regret it. You might not use it very often for in tree pruning, but if your only other saw is biggun, you might use it a lot more than what you thought for little jobs. You'll get a lot of years of good service out of it (I'd never sell mine) but even if you decide to get rid of it, you'll get a good price.

Shaun

Isn't Australia closer to Germany than the US , or should I say CHINA, why are they so expensive ?

 

[TreeClimber57]

Isn't Australia closer to Germany than the US , or should I say CHINA, why are they so expensive ?

Well none of the high end stuff is made in China yet. And it is likley volume in the country that makes difference. U.S. is cheaper than Canada by a good bit, yet we are virtually the same in distance. Go figure.. only volume can account for the differences (that and maybe taxes).

 

[jefflovstrom]

I am glad I don't live in Canada or Australia, Althought, I think soon I will not wanting to in the USA! Could go off on a rant here, but I think some of you get it!
Jeff ( yeah, TV, abcd) got it!

 

[TreeClimber57]

I am glad I don't live in Canada or Australia, Althought, I think soon I will not wanting to in the USA! Could go off on a rant here, but I think some of you get it!
Jeff ( yeah, TV, abcd) got it!

But there are pros and cons in every situation. It isn't all bad !

 

[lxt]

Just looked at it.. nice looking saw. Our local dealer never has one of these on shelf. The Stihl dealer has 200T almost all the time.

About same size as 200T, maybe a little less hp, but insignificant as per specs.

How does it really compare to 200T work wise.

Thats what im wandering....how it compares, I have never really had good luck with husky (ignition modules)....but I was thinking for 1/2 the price I might check it out?


LXT...........

 

[jefflovstrom]

Thats what im wandering....how it compares, I have never really had good luck with husky (ignition modules)....but I was thinking for 1/2 the price I might check it out?


LXT...........

Half the price, half thinking about checking it out.
Jeff

 

[Tang]

Compared to the 200t the Husky T 435 I think fits right in there. Side by side there overall size is pretty close. The 200t has .1 more HP but the same size motor cu in wise. The T 435 actually is lighter by .4 but they feel the same with bar oil and fuel. I like the way the husky fits in the hand, even more comfortable if using one hand. Noise wise - they sound the same through ear plugs. The Husky does have some less beefy looking parts like the brake handle and the choke lever, whereas he Stihl feels a little more stout, but to me not as balanced. Although mishaps do happen and have happend to me...Remember, these saws help to put food on the table and provide for our families, don't expect anything to last if you treat it like crap. FYI when I did drop the saw on accident, I brushed it off and went right back to work.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Compared to the 200t the Husky T 435 I think fits right in there. Side by side there overall size is pretty close. The 200t has .1 more HP but the same size motor cu in wise. The T 435 actually is lighter by .4 but they feel the same with bar oil and fuel. I like the way the husky fits in the hand, even more comfortable if using one hand. Noise wise - they sound the same through ear plugs. The Husky does have some less beefy looking parts like the brake handle and the choke lever, whereas he Stihl feels a little more stout, but to me not as balanced. Although mishaps do happen and have happend to me...Remember, these saws help to put food on the table and provide for our families, don't expect anything to last if you treat it like crap. FYI when I did drop the saw on accident, I brushed it off and went right back to work.

I think you bumped your head when the rocket took off with the astronaunts and you were not belted in because you are just bringing the "Tang". Those couple of bumps did not affect you as much as the ones you took on the way down! If you dont get it- the vets will!
Jeff, Run out of letters.