Mystery Oregon Bar

[Turd Furgeson]

Hey Guys,

I picked up a 60" bar today to use for milling. The slot width is approximately 9.5 mm. It only has one set of oil holes, but it has three bar adjusters drilled in it. The tip is marked oregon, but I stripped the paint off the lower ends of the bar since the pictures were taken and I couldn't find any other markings on the bar. It came with 3 chains. Two are 3/8" .050 gauge, one is 3/8" .058 gauge. Supposedly it came off a "big old poulan" chainsaw that the guy bought from the amish and trashed. I stuck my bar gauges in the rail, the .050 gauge is a bit loose compared to a new bar, the .058 gauge is tight, real tight but it fits. The .058 gauge chain measures .057" and does fit in the slot. The bar is in good shape but does have some wear, on the one side and it looks like it was never flipped. The tip is in great shape. I'm trying to figure out if it's really a .050 gauge bar that the rails are spread a bit, or if it's a .058 gauge bar with two wrong chains. Any insight?

 

[Turd Furgeson]

I think I may have figured it out. I believe it's a vintage D196 mount cannon super bar. It's an oregon tip, but it has the cannon shape, did Oregon make the tips for Cannon on their early bars?

I laid my husqvarna pattern 42" oregon powermatch bar on it and it wasn't even close to the same. I also laid a Stihl 090 bar on it and this one is still fatter in the tail by a bit.

 

[Skeans]

I think I may have figured it out. I believe it's a vintage D196 mount cannon super bar. It's an oregon tip, but it has the cannon shape, did Oregon make the tips for Cannon on their early bars?

I laid my husqvarna pattern 42" oregon powermatch bar on it and it wasn't even close to the same. I also laid a Stihl 090 bar on it and this one is still fatter in the tail by a bit.

Even the vintage Cannon Superbars had the fat belly, my guess is it’s an older Oregon bar they made some long bars back in the day.


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[Jacob J.]

I think I may have figured it out. I believe it's a vintage D196 mount cannon super bar. It's an oregon tip, but it has the cannon shape, did Oregon make the tips for Cannon on their early bars?

I laid my husqvarna pattern 42" oregon powermatch bar on it and it wasn't even close to the same. I also laid a Stihl 090 bar on it and this one is still fatter in the tail by a bit.

Cannon and General both used the Oregon three-rivet tips back in the day. My guess is that it's a General bar made for the old large Poulan/Electrolux mount which was 9.5mm. It was probably originally configured for
.404" x .050" gauge chain.

 

[Turd Furgeson]

Thanks for the info guys. This has more of a belly than any of my other bars, but it doesn't look quite as fat as Cannon's in the pictures i'm finding. It's about 4.325" at the widest part. Does somebody have a 60" cannon they could measure?

Did generals mark their bars anywhere? I have a few older Oregons and they have heavy stamps in them by the mount. This has nothing that I can find.

I just cleaned all the gunk out of the groove. The .058" gauge doesn't fully seat, so I'm guessing Jacob is correct that it was originally a .050 gauge bar that opened up enough that they started using .058" loops. I'll use up the worn .058" gauge chain up, try closing the rails back to .050" gauge and if that doesn't work I'll buy a few .058" gauge loops to use and then at some point I guess I could switch to .063" gauge. I doubt I'll ever use it that much though, I have a 42" bar that should cover most chainsaw milling needs and at some point I'd like to build a wide cut bandsaw mill.

 

[Jacob J.]

Did generals mark their bars anywhere?

Not usually - I've had a dozen large General bars in my hands and only one had any kind of markings. It was stamped with some sort of part number
but had no reference to the chain size, pitch, or gauge that the bar was made for.