Neat little gearbox attachment for chainsaw

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Good evening! Thought I'd share my latest chainsaw gadget, that I'm looking forward to using for maple sugaring in a few weeks. I like this kind because, unlike most others I've seen before, it doesn't use a toothless chain to drive it. It fits right over the rim drive splines on the clutch drum. I've only seen one of these once before and it was years ago, so when I saw this on eBay I snatched it up right quick. The seller had it attached to a newish MS261, and I got the package for what would have been a good deal for just the saw. I have a nice 026 that I'll be using with this, so the 261 is being sold after I get it back to chainsaw configuration (more on that later). As there are NO markings of any kind on the gearbox, I'd love to know more about it if anyone has any knowledge. It appears to have been made in a very small run, maybe in a factory machine shop. It appears that the pattern for the casting either didn't come out as expected, or the sand mold was worked on freehand a little bit.

3/4" chuck


Look carefully, and you can see the crappy sand casting work done. The case is aluminum.


Chainsaw side. The kadingus toward the fixed vise jaw fits over the clutch drum splines. It appears to have been made very crudely with a milling machine, rather than broached or investment cast, again indicating that this was likely made in a very small run.


Attached to saw


Method of attachment to saw. Notice the broken bar stud.


Oil tank on the 261. Apparently this saw was purchased new specifically for use with this gearbox, and had never had oil in the tank. I was afraid the oil pump would be burned up, but it oiled as well as I've ever seen a Stihl oil.

I'm thinking of giving the eBay seller some crap, because he waited 18 days after receiving payment to ship the saw, and although it was advertised as "good" condition, it had a broken bar stud, missing clutch pilot bearing, missing bucking spike (or whatever it's called), and the part of the cover that the master control lever slides in is broken and bent such that it prevents the lever from moving freely. When the parts get in I'll test run it and then hopefully sell it. I may eventually buy a 2nd 026 and remove the oiler and brake, and make it a dedicated drill engine. We'll see. In the meantime, it will go on my current 026 and be used to start the engine on my welder, which was made in 1956 and has no starting system whatsoever, not even a rope start. Just a big nut on the crank stub. That way, I'll be able to start the welder in places where I can't plug in my 5/8" electric drill.
 
Very cool. What RPM does the output shaft turn or what is the gear ratio? There has to be many tools a chainsaw powerhead could be adapted to but so far I've only seen a winch and this.
 
We had one growing up, I can't remember the brand, but it was 90 degrees so the chuck pointed forward like the bar did. We used it for drilling the holes to pin log cabins together. We ran it on an old xl-12 but it was a universal mount. It has the small chain that ran it too. It was quite interesting when you hit a knot.
 
Very cool. What RPM does the output shaft turn or what is the gear ratio? There has to be many tools a chainsaw powerhead could be adapted to but so far I've only seen a winch and this.

It's about 8-to-1, so for drilling maple trees it will probably run around 1400RPM since the saw wouldn't really be working very hard (1/2" hole in green wood).

Chainsaw attachments other than crosscut bars have always interested me. I've seen the Amish around here use MS250's with V-belt sheaves to power miter saws. Really clever how they hook them up, the saw trigger is exactly where the electric motor trigger would have been. I've also seen a Russian guy on Ebay selling 4.5" angle grinders that attach to Stihl 3005-mount saws. I imagine it works much like the old TS350 cutting attachment that bolted to a modified 08.
 
It was quite interesting when you hit a knot.

I'll bet it was. My other 2-stroke drill has no clutch mechanism, and when you hit something you go for a ride. There's no way to stop the bit other than to kill the engine. I sincerely believe that large drills of any type are just as dangerous as chainsaws, if not more so in some situations.

Did you find it hard to balance the thing and make straight holes?
 
I also have a BT45, and yes it is much easier to use. But this is cooler and does more for my machinery collecting addiction. Also, the BT45 won't even budge the several rope start engines I have tried it on, but this definitely will.
 
It was not too hard, dad had a plate made and attached bubble levels to make it easier. I got to looking for one online last night and found one just like the one we had on UK ebay. Our saw and drill atachment along with alot of our hand log work tools where stolen from a jobsite where we where building rental cabins. We could not find an other one so we ended up getting a gas drill like the one guido posted above. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Atom-Chai...el-2000-NOT-Stihl-/252230762172#ht_362wt_1141
 
Old school attachments. First photo is the saw as sold, following are attachments that could replace the bevel gearbox on the front.

Very cool photos! Thanks for posting. The brushcutter attachment looks like an awesome machine. It also looks like it would be really, really heavy by the end of the day!

What kind of saw is the little one in the 2nd photo?

This 1" impact for the RR touts 600 ft lbs of torque

Alexcagle, was the TS350 air filter originally used with the impact wrench, or is that there because you're a "cutoff saw specialist" and had one lying around?

Am I correct in assuming that the lever reverses it, using a differential gearset like on a BT45?
 
McCulloch had high hopes for the 33/35/39 power head, all were very similar in design and operation and in addition to the bevel gear reducer they had the range of attachments.

Mc 35 Saw Pulley 1.jpg

The odd ball saw behind the dynamite drill with the auger bit is the same power head in a direct drive version. To get the chain to run in the proper direction they had to put the bar on the left. I laid the saw over on it's side to provide a better perspective of the two power heads. One day I will get some better photos of the LeSabre saw, right now it is hanging from the ceiling the garage.

Mark
 
Alexcagle, was the TS350 air filter originally used with the impact wrench, or is that there because you're a "cutoff saw specialist" and had one lying around?

1st question>>>>>> The TS350 air filter came already on it, but you're right about having them laying around...... -
The pic is after I rebuilt it. I replaced the crankcase because it had cracks and stripped threads out the Gazoo.


Am I correct in assuming that the lever reverses it, using a differential gearset like on a BT45?[/QUOTE]

2nd question>>>>>>> Yes, the lever is reverse. But this is an impact from hell. I'm sure it would work great on semi lug nuts.
Speaking of BT45's; did you know there is one person alone who assembles those at the factory? I was at the Stihl plant in VA a couple years ago at "gold school" and they took us on a tour of the plant. They pointed that fact out.
..I have a BT45 in my shop that is almost new, but was being used to stir up solids a 250 gallon dip tank for ductile iron water main fittings that were being refurbished. It got dropped into the black water based coating that is like "environmentally friendly" tar coating. It's locked up now!. It was running when dropped, and it stayed in the tank submerged for a couple hours. Yuck
 
If any of you ever need restoration parts for your 08's, I have several big totes full of crankcases and various good parts. I even have some that are the early 60's 42mm piston version chainsaw. I bet they were nutless when compared to the 49mm version.
I also have an extra chainbrake and hardware assembly for an 08 too. Like this one I made. It has the Super 49mm as well. I discovered that the dolmar 309 cutoff saw had the exact same electronic sem ignition as these saws. jan5 2012 002.jpg
 
Lots of cool pics in this thread. I keep looking for MacGyver or Q from James Bond in the backgrounds.
 
Lots of cool pics in this thread. I keep looking for MacGyver or Q from James Bond in the backgrounds.

This.

That picture 2 posts above this is some good saw ****. I don't own any 08's, but now I want one. What kind of clutch arrangement do they have?
 
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