What kind of pine is this? My tree ID books aren't helping much.
Needles are in clusters of 3, about 6" long.
Needles are in clusters of 3, about 6" long.
Pine tree ID
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We always called those Jack pines here
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Jack pine needles around here are not close to 6". Closer to 2".
More pics please, the cone looks like a Nobcone pine, the bark and needles looks like ponderosa!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_taeda
My first guess. Take a peek.
My first guess. Take a peek.
Loblolly Pine. Looks right to me. Cone looks right, as do the needles. Bark looks ok too. Ponderosa Pine bark, mentioned above, is much more orange.
red pine
Check the cones. Loblolly has a longer cone than red does. My 1st thought by looking at the bark was leaning to red pine, but even then, the plates on the bark are a little large for red. The cone is what pointed me to loblolly.
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Not Red Pine...
Well, at least I don't feel so dumb now. Looks like we don't have much consensus here. I've been considering red pine, loblolly, ponderosa, and others.
Sorry - no more pics available.
Sorry - no more pics available.
I think Ponderosa is eliminated, seems like loblolly is in the lead.
Black Pine
I think I remember learning that red pine has two needles per fascicle, but I am pretty certain I don't remember how to spell fascicle.
That's the cluster that uncle Moustache says there are three needles in.
That's the cluster that uncle Moustache says there are three needles in.
Loblolly has three needles per fascicle. I looked it up, and that is how fascicle is spelled.
Probably Loblolly. Try saying that three times real fast.
Probably Loblolly. Try saying that three times real fast.
Probably l9blolly, probably lolly, probly lolly lob.
Loblolly Pine, the tree grows at a fast rate, you can tell how well tree growth is by the bark. A course bark with large cracks indicates good growth. When the bark has small cracks and fine bark it means the tree has reached maturity, isn't getting proper nutrients, or the forest needs thinning. Also when walking a forest these are some of the things one looks for in determining proper management. In pine plantation one looks at stem (tree) spacing, when the branches from one row starts touching another row its time to thin because if you don't it will retard sun light and retard growth of the tree. You also want to see second growth under the trees, this lets you know sun light is reaching the forest floor. You wouldn't want to thin to much because this would cause the trees to limb out and retard upward growth.
Unc, it may help people if you can tell us where the tree is growing (state and elevation).
SW Illinois. about 400 ft.
I'm leaning toward Loblolly as well, now. That has the most similarities based on what I've seen.
I'm leaning toward Loblolly as well, now. That has the most similarities based on what I've seen.
According to the USDA it doesn't grow in your area. That's why I asked where and what elevation.
https://www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/misc/ag_654/volume_1/pinus/taeda.htm
Except that 'doesn't grow' and 'not native' are not the same thing.
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