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You girls are hard .....
Rope pulling training?
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those aint girls:jawdrop: u seemYou girls are hard .....
THE TRUTH IS OUT IF I GET ONE MORE INFRACTION!!!!!!!!
Bigus Termitius
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Down with dopes...let's talk ropes!
ropensaddle
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I just got a new 3/4 inch stable braid hank! hows that?
ropensaddle
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Whats with these boyz calling men girls? Over a thousand miles
away pretty lame in my book. Get a pop knot around here for
those sort of things
away pretty lame in my book. Get a pop knot around here for
those sort of things
pop knots round these parts are made with 13 rings and a twist:jawdrop:Whats with these boyz calling men girls? Over a thousand miles
away pretty lame in my book. Get a pop knot around here for
those sort of things
ropensaddle
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Shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell him he is closer to ya' all
would that be made with 3 strand,stable braid,or hemp?
southsoundtree
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rope pulling or rope puller
Maasdam rope puller can pull much more than several guys and only takes one to operate it.
Provided that you have a good anchor, be it the truck or otherwise, it is more predictable than petroleum power lean re-direction (pulling with the truck) and you don't need a driving path.
Crank the handle smoothly to reduct the sway. It won't be as fast as pulling with the truck if you need to move something fast to swing it, so its not a replacement for the truck, but an addition to it.
Whoever is paying the damage bills and insurance has the say. If the guy isn't willing to do what you need him to do, maybe he isn't the guy for the job. I test pull before cutting to see what kind of power the puller(s) are generating.
Also, the more horizontal the rope angle the better. People don't always want to walk to the end of the rope (making the rope closer to horizontal), but it increasing pulling power.
Maasdam rope puller can pull much more than several guys and only takes one to operate it.
Provided that you have a good anchor, be it the truck or otherwise, it is more predictable than petroleum power lean re-direction (pulling with the truck) and you don't need a driving path.
Crank the handle smoothly to reduct the sway. It won't be as fast as pulling with the truck if you need to move something fast to swing it, so its not a replacement for the truck, but an addition to it.
Whoever is paying the damage bills and insurance has the say. If the guy isn't willing to do what you need him to do, maybe he isn't the guy for the job. I test pull before cutting to see what kind of power the puller(s) are generating.
Also, the more horizontal the rope angle the better. People don't always want to walk to the end of the rope (making the rope closer to horizontal), but it increasing pulling power.
joesawer
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This was posted by treeman 82 11/11/07
I had a big piece that I was gonna blow out of this maple, but to get it where the guy running the show wanted it to go, it had to get past some limbs on a BIG hickory. So I put a rope in, not very high, but it should have been enough to get a little bit more power behind it coming down. Well I start cutting, and 3 guys are standing there "pulling". The piece starts to go a little bit, and I guess I cut a bit too far, plus they weren't pulling enough, if at all... so it kicked off the tree and came down butt heavy due to the hickory branches. When the top came down it came back towards me.
Look at number 4.
IMO the same thing keeps happening and it is not the groundies fault. And if it keeps happening we will be one climber less.
ropensaddle
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Most that have spent many years in trees have had this happen!
If we lived we learned,I have had one do exactly the same but
did see it coming and was able to dodge the bullet!
Rftreeman
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that's what I've been saying, if there is an object in the way, a rope isn't going to get the tree or top through that object.
No offense to treeman 82 but going by his recent posts he sounds like an inexperienced young guy who likes to take short cuts and passes the buck when it' doesn't go right.
plain and simple, if you need to "GET AROUND SOMETHING" then a rope isn't the answer.
like rope i have spent many yrs in the tree. i read em like a book. iv dodged many bullets in my day but as i get older its been a cease fire for the most part.if this kind of crap is happening to you use your brain!! get up in it get out on it and do what it takes to keep you from dodging bullets!!!! you playing rullet is gona get ya!!! ill take em as big as i can and fit em where i can git em, but sometimes small is all i can take to make it safe. ill cut tree in half or handle pieces from the top. i will not play rullet. rullet is not crazy its just plain stupid!! there is a big difference.
FanOFatherNash
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sounds like you were trying to take the a short cut, went bad, and so you want to find somone to blame.
It could of been a number of things. Was the notch deep enough to allow enough length on the hinge, maybe he should of cut it lower on the stump to acomplish this. If it had back and side lean the hinge length should of been higher than the 80%/dia even closer to 100% Cutting lower on the stump allows this without cutting the notch depth deeper than 1/3 the dia. because of the butt swell. This is more important than the over all thickness of the hinge although it should still be in the 10% range. When the tree starts lifting most of the hinge thickness breaks off, only a small (maybe a 1/4") portion stays intact. The open face notch should have been used to allow the tree longer control to the ground not a thicker hinge.
flushcut
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That and the fact it is almost a five year old thread.
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