Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[turnkey4099]

By contrast in my search for a new top handle (ended up with the much maligned MS193T in the end) I ran into .

Just wondering, I thought I was the only one who badmouths the MS193T. It is a great saw...if you can start it. Pulls harder than a handcranked big block diesel engine.

 

[woodchip rookie]

You're right. I took a close look at the leaves yesterday and I believe it's ash.

Best smelling wood you can get.

 

[Conquistador3]

Just wondering, I thought I was the only one who badmouths the MS193T. It is a great saw...if you can start it. Pulls harder than a handcranked big block diesel engine.

It gets easier to start after several tanks of fuel but while it's still being broken in the damn thing is incredibly hard to start when cold. I am used to Stihl's, that is all I've been running for years, but a brand new MS193T is in another universe as far as poor cold starting goes. The purge bulb is most likely there just because the people at Stihl thought it hilarious and I suspect the choke is basically useless.

I suspect my Stihl's are affecting my Echo's as well because the PAS multi-tool has become extremely hard to cold start despite a full fuel system overhaul. That or, as usual, the WT carburetor hasn't taken kindly to being rebuilt.

 

[95custmz]

I have found that the best way to start the newer Stihls is full choke until it coughs (might be 1-5 pulls). Once it coughs, pull on half choke and it usually fires off. If not, I'm left with a flooded carb and frustration. Hey, as a side note: Am I the only one that will pull and pull and pull, and then realize that the kill switch is set to "off".

 

[James Miller]

I have found that the best way to start the newer Stihls is full choke until it coughs (might be 1-5 pulls). Once it coughs, pull on half choke and it usually fires off. If not, I'm left with a flooded carb and frustration. Hey, as a side note: Am I the only one that will pull and pull and pull, and then realize that the kill switch is set to "off".

Nope I did it with an old 3400 one time. I knew it was a runner so I started looking sure enough the switch was off.

 

[farmer steve]

todays itty bitty scrounge. mostly dead ash with a little black walnut to fill up the bucket. it's about all the fractured vertebrae will allow. scrounge on men.

 

[farmer steve]

hey @Buckshot00. i stihl think that is oak from your previous pic.

 

[nighthunter]

Speaking of 462s any of the video's on YouTube where they are reviewing the saw, the outcome 99.9% is that it was slightly underpowered and that the 461 is a better saw. I personally love the 461 but the only problem i see is that for a €100 more you can get a new 661 with a 36" bar while the 461 comes with a 30". The 462 will come in around €950. Ill stick with the 461

 

[Buckshot00]

hey @Buckshot00. i stihl think that is oak from your previous pic.

Very well could be. I had my dog Red with me and he was yanking on the leash trying to run every squirrell there was in the woods. I will double check tomorrow.

 

[farmer steve]

Very well could be. I had my dog Red with me and he was yanking on the leash trying to run every squirrell there was in the woods. I will double check tomorrow.
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ash is pretty much white the whole way from bark to center. yours has a bit of dark in the center.

 

[svk]

Nice looking saw, but I'm getting 2 Chinese 440 clones for less, and already have an OEM cylinder lined up for one. (Plan to do a big bore on the other).

Total cost for both will be less than that saw, even with the extra parts.

FYI, the 10 mm KS jugs are known for their consistent and strong performance, and the 10 mm saws are generally lighter than the 12 mm saws. That does not mean that other cylinders were not also VG now & then. The early slant fin 12 mm saws also ran very strong.

That said, my plain jane straight fin MS 440 is a very good running saw.

You are an animal. One for each hand?

 

[bear1998]

I guess your right in some ways. My grandfather has a big block 4 speed Dart and one day he said let's take the Dart out. I said I'd go get Nana and he told me she's not going this time. We go out to the mine stretch. Couple corners then you come to a railroad crossing and straight as an arrow for at least a mile down to second gear and he just let it eat spin threw second chirp into third run out forth till the speedo didn't have numbers left. Slow it down he looks over and says sometimes you have to drive them like there ment to be. I'll never forget that ride. He was 75 at the time

I know exactly where you were!!

 

[MechanicMatt]

I'm just waiting for the roof rack to go on the mustang, I know he has no more room in the car for saws. Maybe there is room on the passenger front seat....

 

[MechanicMatt]

Just need to photoshop some saws up there

 

[James Miller]

I know exactly where you were!!

I'm sure Steve does to. We used to street race out there when I was younger.

 

[LondonNeil]

I have found that the best way to start the newer Stihls is full choke until it coughs (might be 1-5 pulls). Once it coughs, pull on half choke and it usually fires off.

Soooooo, follow the manual then? Yep, I find that works.

Try starting one when it's been run dry. Both my 180 and 038S are the same. 20 pulls to first cough, every time. I ALWAYS run my saws dry and store dry so always get plenty of exercise getting them started next time.

 

[bear1998]

I guess your right in some ways. My grandfather has a big block 4 speed Dart and one day he said let's take the Dart out. I said I'd go get Nana and he told me she's not going this time. We go out to the mine stretch. Couple corners then you come to a railroad crossing and straight as an arrow for at least a mile down to second gear and he just let it eat spin threw second chirp into third run out forth till the speedo didn't have numbers left. Slow it down he looks over and says sometimes you have to drive them like there ment to be. I'll never forget that ride. He was 75 at the time

I'm sure Steve does to. We used to street race out there when I was younger.

Ever go to the twin bridges outside of hunterstown ??

 

[woodchip rookie]

Soooooo, follow the manual then? Yep, I find that works.

Try starting one when it's been run dry. Both my 180 and 038S are the same. 20 pulls to first cough, every time. I ALWAYS run my saws dry and store dry so always get plenty of exercise getting them started next time.

I don't worry about saws sitting with fuel anymore since I run the ethenol free stuff. My little poulan has sat in the shed for years with old gas in it. Dump the gas, fill with new and cut. I'm not saying that is a good practice because I have seen what crap gas does. I must have got a miracle Poulan.

 

[woodchip rookie]

Hey, as a side note: Am I the only one that will pull and pull and pull, and then realize that the kill switch is set to "off".

On the saws I have that don't have momentary kill switches (395) I turn it right back over to run after I shut it off so it sits in the run position at all times. Pick up, pull, cut, off then right back on, THEN set the saw down.

 

[95custmz]

Soooooo, follow the manual then? Yep, I find that works.

Try starting one when it's been run dry. Both my 180 and 038S are the same. 20 pulls to first cough, every time. I ALWAYS run my saws dry and store dry so always get plenty of exercise getting them started next time.

Not everyone reads the manual. We're men, right? We don't need no stinkin directions!