Needed to be on the edge of the landing for lift but 50m back to only have a few wraps on the drum for pulling force. Either way by itself wasn't enough.
Put fork tines together, dug the top off the chute as far as I dare, and farmer came over with her tractor to act as an anchor. So, I stayed on the edge, she parked 50m back, and for once today I got lucky and we got that log up. It's not the biggest but given the slope it is the most I've asked of the winch.
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Deconstructing red dragon tomorrow shall be most rewarding.
Oh and fwiw, my 12t jack that didn't cooperate the other day has been tested and it bypassed at just under 4t. I feel a bit better about that. No more chinesium jacks for me.