Sprocket E Clip

[Bj Shock]

This saw came to me in non - running condition.
After I got it running, I noticed that the chain would still turn even at Idle.
I took the clutch apart and found 2 broken springs and a chewed up oil pump and drive unit.
I replaced the pump assy. and clutch/sprocket.
Now, I caint get the E-Clip to fit properly.
I know the clip sat flush in its recess before I took it apart.
I went to the local Stihl dealer and got a bag-o-new clips.
After two clips went a-zingin, this is the best I could get it.
I know it aint right...
Stihl MS460....
Please help!

 

[Definitive Dave]

is the tang of the worm gear seated properly in the slit of the clutch drum? if it isnt seated all the way it will hold the drum and rim and washer out and the clip wont fit in properly

 

[HarleyT]

get the thinner washer, or get an oem sprocket.

 

[Bj Shock]

is the tang of the worm gear seated properly in the slit of the clutch drum? if it isnt seated all the way it will hold the drum and rim and washer out and the clip wont fit in properly

Checked and triple checked...

 

[Haironyourchest]

Looks right. Those Stihl e-clips only engage at three points, the "wings" and the little dingus on the inside of the clip between the wings. There is a top and bottom face to them though - one face is slightly rounded at the edges, and the other has sharp 90 degree edges. The sharp face is the outer face.

 

[Bj Shock]

get the thinner washer, or get an oem sprocket.

I gotta do something I only have nine clips left!
I cant imagine the cheap aftermarket parts would cause a problem like this. LOL

 

[noodlewalker]

Checked and triple checked...

I'd like to see a picture of the oil pump. Is it possible that the bearing is set too deep and pushing everything forward enough to not be able to set the clip into the groove?

 

[Ax-man]

I don't know what saw you have but that don't look right . That part that fits under the E clip or washer as Harley calls it to hold that rim sprocket onto the clutch drum is the culprit would be my guess.

 

[PV Hiker]

Turn the washer over?

 

[Ronie]

Could the clutch need tightening up a little so there is more space for the clip?

 

[Ozhoo]

Make sure that you have the correct cover washer for whichever clutch you have. Also make sure that the cover washer is facing the correct direction. Here's the TI that covers it.

 

[rupedoggy]

ozhoo you beat me to it. Those big washers look like they go a certain direction but most have "OUT" stamped on them to help you get it right.

 

[Bj Shock]

Could the clutch need tightening up a little so there is more space for the clip?

I took it back apart and made sure the clutch was tight,
still couldn't get the clip to fit properly..
took it back apart and put it back together with the original clutch drum
and it went together like its supposed to.
Both clutch drums have the same number stamped on em.
I dunno.
Anyhow, thanks for the help fellers.

 

[Bj Shock]

This one is ready to go.
MS460 with a 54mm kit from '15
New oil pump and clutch and also a new carb
Its kinda cool when they come back to see you every 5 years or so.

 

[HarleyT]

What brand sprocket is that?

 

[L34]

Seems like you only have to grind a few thou off end of sprocket to fit if old one is ok.

 

[CR888]

The worm drive cut outs on the drum may be too small for worm gear sometime you need to file them out a touch for the drum to seat properly.

 

[albert]

Looks like china junk

 

[Bj Shock]

Yup, Chicom Junk.
I should know better

 

[Bj Shock]

This saw came back to see me after less than a year..
Here is what I found....
The exact same thing as last time...
2 broken clutch springs...
Have not made it to the pump yet...
What should I do?

If you go back thru this thread you may gain a lil insight.
I dunno.