Stihl 044 I recently bought - Cylinder & Piston kit questions

[nyctreeman]

I picked up a Stihl 044 in nice condition, except the fried cylinder and piston, it's a 12mm wrist pin set.

So I had an OEM set with everything but the rings eyeballed for $255 and I figured since the correct rings would cost me about $30, I messaged the guy asking if he'd take a bit less since I had to buy rings. Before he had a chance to answer me, someone bought the set.

I've got $130 in the saw which is complete power head, clean and unmolested, so should I bite the bullet and just get the kit from a Stihl dealer? The complete kit isn't that much more than the set minus the rings on fleabay.

Or should I just button it up with a Meteor set? ... Or is there a better Stihl cylinder & piston set I should consider? I've seen some chatter that the 046 set fits but I don't know.

I'm not keeping the saw, I don't need it, so my decision is going to be based on selling it and how much more I can get for it OEM versus non OEM.

Thanks for any knowledge.

 

[Rockjock]

What do 044's sell for where you are? Where I am you would barley break even if you go OEM.

 

[redoakman]

from my experencie you have $130 in it oem kit probs 300 . that brings you to a total of $430 bucks unless this saw is really nice your resale vaule of this saw would only be 400 if that . meteor would be the way to go but i would clearly state that this saws has a meteor top end on it when you try to resell it .

 

[old-cat]

http://stores.ebay.com/FIXINGSTILL?_dmd=1&_nkw=044+cylinder

 

[nyctreeman]

What do 044's sell for where you are? Where I am you would barley break even if you go OEM.

The saw is clean enough that I can get an OEM set for it, I'll get $600
One just sold on fleabay for $640

 

[Rockjock]

The saw is clean enough that if I can get an OEM set for it, I'll get $600
One just sold on fleabay for $640

600 bucks? madness then again someone bought a red paper clip for 49.95. But I do not see it.

 

[nyctreeman]

http://stores.ebay.com/FIXINGSTILL?_dmd=1&_nkw=044+cylinder

I looked at that, the cylinder looks very good ... but ... I'm not keen on using AM piston with it ... and I'm under the impression that the slant fin cylinders are all 10mm?

 

[Mad Professor]

I the cylinder obviously gouged up?

I've seen a lot of cylinders with horrible aluminum transfer that are serviceable after a bit of cleaning. If it cleans up take advantage of the new prices on OEM Stihl piston kits.

 

[nyctreeman]

from my experencie you have $130 in it oem kit probs 300 . that brings you to a total of $430 bucks unless this saw is really nice your resale vaule of this saw would only be 400 if that . meteor would be the way to go but i would clearly state that this saws has a meteor top end on it when you try to resell it .

I've checked all the completed sales on fleabay for 044s ... the cheapest one that even approaches the condition of mine sold for $600 plus shipping.

For whatever reason, people on fleabay are willing to pay stupid money for these saws.

 

[redoakman]

I looked at that, the cylinder looks very good ... but ... I'm not keen on using AM piston with it ... and I'm under the impression that the slant fin cylinders are all 10mm?

10mm cylinders will still work on 12mm cases . there is some ealry 12mm 044 s that have angled fins

 

[redoakman]

The saw is clean enough that I can get an OEM set for it, I'll get $600
One just sold on fleabay for $640

buy any chance do u have a link where i can see this and then cut my eyes out after

 

[Adirondackstihl]

I looked at that, the cylinder looks very good ... but ... I'm not keen on using AM piston with it ... and I'm under the impression that the slant fin cylinders are all 10mm?

Not all angled fin cylinders are 10mm.
Doesn't matter anyway. You can run a 10mm cylinder on a 12mm saw.

$30 for rings? I paid well under $50 for a complete OEM piston kit which came with everything except the WP bearing.

As far as aftermarket goes, Meteor makes a damn fine piston. OEM quality if not better in my book.
Just don't be buyin a 10mm Meteor piston anytime soon

 

[Adirondackstihl]

I've checked all the completed sales on fleabay for 044s ... the cheapest one that even approaches the condition of mine sold for $600 plus shipping.

For whatever reason, people on fleabay are willing to pay stupid money for these saws.

Sell ya this one

 

[nyctreeman]

buy any chance do u have a link where i can see this and then cut my eyes out after

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-044-s...440?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462d662c40

And here's an 044 with a smoked cylinder and piston that is already almost $200 + $25 shipping, and compared to the one I bought for $130, this one looks like crap. (still has 3 days to go)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-044-C...558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e99cc0506

 

[Moparmyway]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-044-s...440?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item462d662c40

And here's an 044 with a smoked cylinder and piston that is already almost $200 + $25 shipping, and compared to the one I bought for $130, this one looks like crap. (still has 3 days to go)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stihl-044-C...558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e99cc0506

I will send you $200 plus shipping right now for yours

 

[Adirondackstihl]

I would have no problem spending $ on an 044/440 that was wearing a Meteor top end.

 

[Rockjock]

It is what the market will dictate. There are local guys here sitting on bigger saws while the 025's and 290 fly out the door for good money.

 

[nyctreeman]

I would have no problem spending $ on an 044/440 that was wearing a Meteor top end.

Yeah, I'm thinking about trying one out ... I don't need the money per se ... I'm in the mood to just experiment with various saws.
If I just broke this saw up for parts, I could probably make more than selling it as a complete running saw, OEM or AM
If I go the Meteor route ... then I'd use the saw for a while just for the experience.
If I go the OEM route ... then I'd just sell it cuz I really have no use for another big saw.
The money is irrelevant at this point, other than I'm not going to invest my time putting it into OEM condition and not make something on it.
If Mastermind was taking new customers, I'd even consider sending him the saw and new OEM kit just for the fun of it, I've never had a high performance worked saw before.

 

[old-cat]

I've never had a high performance worked saw before.

That's a DANGEROUS route to take! You WILL get hooked

 

[kyle.kipple]

Looks like your best bet is taking mopars offer and be done with it if your that indecisive on what to do.

If it were me, I'd surely try my damnedest to clean the cylinder. I've saved many out of scrap piles before. If it cleans up saves you $$. If not, all is lost is a bit of time.


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