Stihl MS-441 C-M Dies After Idling

[dl5205]

Yes, they do. The 261 feels like a 357 and the 441 handles like a 385.

That'll make you popular.

 

[nmurph]

That'll make you popular.

I thought it was pretty good.

 

[dl5205]

nmurph, I can't believe you left that, and no one will step in it!

 

[nmurph]

Yep, baited the trap and even Bigfoot has avoided it.

What do you think about #12 in this thread? I thought it was pretty sneaky myself.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-261cm-362cm.252258/

 

[Nuzzy]

Yep, baited the trap and even Bigfoot has avoided it.

What do you think about #12 in this thread? I thought it was pretty sneaky myself.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/stihl-261cm-362cm.252258/

I enjoyed it.

 

[ash man]

I don't believe anyone answered the question of whether the 441 and 562 share the same zama carb...

 

[XSKIER]

I don't believe you'll ever get an answer to that question. MS 441 R C-M guys would never pick up a 562 because it is such a flimsy piece. 562 guys could never pick up a MS 441 R C-M because their arms are too weak.

 

[ash man]

xkid your starting to wear out the whole flimsy thing, but your right about something, Stihl is starting to make some boxy heavy boat anchors as of late.

 

[AKDoug]

I don't believe anyone answered the question of whether the 441 and 562 share the same zama carb...

HD-49B on a 441CM.... no clue what the 562 uses.

 

[RedFir Down]

The early 562's are running the Zama EL44's and the late ones are running the EL46's

 

[AKDoug]

Then I guess they're not the same

 

[CowboyDan]

Hey Gents.

Unfortunately I'm still waiting to take my saw back in for it's third visit to the Dying-M-Tronic-Saw Clinic, so I don't have any new news about my particular idling problem. As soon as I do, of course, I'll post back here.

I do have an update to the M-Tronic calibration procedure, however. With all due respect to OzHoo, I think I have a newer procedure. This is what I got from the Stihl distributor in Denver about a month ago:

1. With the chain brake engaged…
a. Hold throttle and set start lever to Start position (Δ)
b. Start saw and let idle in Start position (Δ) for 90 seconds
c. Blip throttle to bring the machine to the Run position (I)
d. Immediately move lever to Stop position (O)
e. This will reset the carb to original factory setting.

2. With the chain brake engaged…
a. Hold throttle and set start lever to Start position (Δ)
b. Start saw then Blip throttle to bring the machine to the Run position (I)
c. Let idle in Run position (I) for 90 seconds
d. Immediately move lever to Stop position (O)
e. This will calibrate the idling characteristics of the saw.

3. With the chain brake engaged…
a. Hold throttle and set start lever to Start position (Δ)
b. Start saw then Blip throttle to bring the machine to the Run position (I)
c. Disengage chain brake and make five uniform cuts through a minimum 12-inch-diameter log.
d. This will calibrate the full throttle characteristics of the saw.

Done.

Of course I did this after my carb was replaced, and it didn't make a hill of beans of difference. I think I have a mechanical problem (carb metering lever).

Anyway...thought this might be useful.

Any clue if this will help my ms201tc. It shuts off randomly at idle and idles rough

 

[DND 9000]

It`s possible that you have a leaking solenoid valve on your saw. That`s a common fault that gives this. Replace it or go and talk to your dealer, and see if it is alright then.

 

[CowboyDan]

It`s possible that you have a leaking solenoid valve on your saw. That`s a common fault that gives this. Replace it or go and talk to your dealer, and see if it is alright then.

I appreciate it. I don’t care for my local dealer. lol. So I’ll just replace the solenoid myself. No harm no foul.


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