i cannot, for the life of me, figure how anyone from ny or nj figures pennsylvania sucks. All you have to do is see the traffic mess every morning and night on rt.80 coming into and out of nj. Most of those "commuters" used to live" in ny and nj. Whats that tell you.........i evacuated nj 30 years ago. Now it is purely painful every year when i go there to visit relatives. Having been born in pa., i have no idea how you even think for a second that pa sucks...............just sayin', now carry on. Lol!!!!!!!!