The MS261 is here!!

[Wildman1024]

The next saw I buy will have a plastic recoil housing FO SHO! That much less weight on the flywheel side outta make it handle that much better :monkey:

 

[SWE#Kipp]

I have run them both and the 261 runs very nice but for the limbing technique i use the 346 handles better but that's just me and maybe if had the chance to run it some more i might get a better feel for it !?
But the real "shootout" is to be seen when the 550xp arrives (sometime at the end of next year i think)

"550xp" .vs 261 will be a good one for sure

Well keep on the good ole bashing now !!!

Looking forward to see the modding gains Brad

 

[SawTroll]

The 024/026/260 had a plastic recoil cover too. Just how much more does the mag cover on the 346 weigh more than the mag cover on a 260? Also, how much slimmer is the case on a 346 vs the 260 or 261? How many more ounces per square inch is there on a 346 as you progressively move towards the bar vs a 260? I've read a lot of IPLS, but never could gleam the knowledge that you can just by looking at the IPL. I think you may suffer from DCBUYA syndrome instead of actual facts.

I never used the IPLs as a reference on the 261, only pics that has been availiable on the Internet, mostly Stihls German web-site.

Have you ever held a 346xp (or similar) clutch cover in your hand, and compared it to a Stihl one? There is a huge weight difference!

If you want measurements, make them yourself - that part of your post is just BS, and nothing else! :monkey:

 

[tdi-rick]

This has to be the funniest thread in a long time, Dinger's been on fire





As a few have already said, comparing after being modded is pretty meaningless, it's how they compare box stock for box stock to be meaningful for 99.99% of users.

Of course then seeing how far you can improve one without burning it up in commercial use is all fun, and even more fun when someone does a removable head, nitro, pipe......

 

[SawTroll]

This has to be the funniest thread in a long time, Dinger's been on fire





As a few have already said, comparing after being modded is pretty meaningless, it's how they compare box stock for box stock to be meaningful for 99.99% of users.

Of course then seeing how far you can improve one without burning it up in commercial use is all fun, and even more fun when someone does a removable head, nitro, pipe......

First it was nice, then it got ugly, and by now it is just fun! :yoyo::yoyo:

....but there may be a couple of members that don't want to understand that.....

 

[2000ssm6]

2K I know you love Stihl and that is more than fine with me. However anyone that thinks Stihl is better than all other makes, hasn't ran, worked on, or ported any saws himself. For the most part they all make great products.

Yup, love 'em. I know the others make good stuff, one of the reasons I just bought that Redmax trimmer and blower. I can think outside the box, just prefer Stihl most of the time. They have never let me down so I will continue to support them.

Now on to real facts as I know them. I don't see the 346 as having more torque than the 261, and with a MM the throttle response is excellent. I can't say the same about the other stock strato saws I've ran. If I had to guess and this is a long shot of a guess, the 261 will indeed out cut the 346. Remember this is coming from a big 346 fan.

Well........We could have saved 20 pages. I know a few guys didn't want to hear that post but it speaks for miles. Now lets see if they can accept it.

 

[Trigger-Time]

Brad,

I know it would be a little more work for you, but I vote for a new thread. Copy your post and videos and start over.

Then some of you need to start a couple of threads.

"I Hate Stihl and the people that use them"


"I Hate Husky and the people that use them"


Maybe it doesn't bother Brad all this BS but IMO it's has taken
a very good thread down the drain. I'm all for knocking husky
in good fun from time to time but some of this has went overboard.



TT

 

[spike60]

I guess that last night was a good night for the weather to knock out my internet.
:biggrinbounce2: I mean, you just knew that this topic would have to go critical mass here. It'll probably stay that way through Christmas too.

Best line in all 20 pages was Tommy's "water in the pond went down two feet when I pulled out the bass."

 

[SawTroll]

I actually tried to let the celebration of the 261 carry on in peace, until the thread "exploded" in my face.....:bang::bang:

That was not fun at all at the moment, but it gradually got more fun!

 

[THALL10326]

Ah yes. The Stihl happy meal theory.
Sell 50 gazillion soy and worm burgers and declare them better than Moms Roast beef because they sell better.

Problem with that theory is, it only applies to those who sell the things.
The rest of us actually have to use them.

On another note, I only run one saw at a time.
Your numbers are meaningless to any end user with brain development past Herd instinct.

Ford Escorts racked up a million times more miles than Corvette in the same years.
By your definition, the Escort is the better car.LOL!!!!

Are you trying to say that Stihl is the Ford Escort of saws?
The Bic Mac of the nutrition world?:hmm3grin2orange:

LOL!!!
Ya keep selling those McStihls Tommy.
I'll swing through the drive through when i'm in a hurry and need to make a terd and don't mind the trots.

Are you the Ronald McStihl of sawdom? LOL!!!
All them Fat kids with greasy fingers sitting on your lap, with 2000 dressed up as the sawburgler running around swiping 200T's when you ain't looking? LOL!!!

I hope ya sell truckloads of them. LOL!!
Somebodys gotta.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

Dayummm Ding I didn't figure you would write a book over Stihl kicking the rest in the gonads. Yes we know, it hurts. You say the problem with us is we sell them but yaw have to use them, well it seems yaw are the ones buying them, gulltin for your own punishment, is that what your trying to say? haha, I love it. I prefer to think those that buy all those Stihls like a real hamburger, not a soybean one, :biggrinbounce2::biggrinbounce2::biggrinbounce2::biggrinbounce2::biggrinbounce2:

 

[THALL10326]

I never used the IPLs as a reference on the 261, only pics that has been availiable on the Internet, mostly Stihls German web-site.

Have you ever held a 346xp (or similar) clutch cover in your hand, and compared it to a Stihl one? There is a huge weight difference!

If you want measurements, make them yourself - that part of your post is just BS, and nothing else! :monkey:

So thats how you get your ideas, well kiss my hiny. How do those pics handle ole boy, are they heavy with lots of color,

 

[hori]

thanks again Brad for going out of his way to show everyone this new saw. Alot of people talk the talk on here since but Brad backs up his findings with videos and not just talk out of his A$$ like alot of the internet trolls on here,

I laugh when people who haven`t used a particular saw being tested or even worse held one but be damned they know everything about that saw as google is there best friend..


I look forward to seeing these saws tested stock, meaning stock muffler on both no mods. If husky sells that saw with crappy muffler then so be it lets see it STOCK like 2 average Joe`s buying them and testing them out. That be an eye opener I bet.

Modded is different and leave that to Brad as he knows what he is doing.

Good job :greenchainsaw:

 

[Trigger-Time]

I forgot, Brad looks as if the homemade mill worked good.

Nice looking cant!




TT

 

[StihlyinEly]

Well, finally some real info, that I didn't know before - I am sure the plastic recoil cover (as on the Husky) will make a slight difference, but there still is a long way to go before it can compensate for the outboard clutch and the heavy Mag clutch cover of the 346xp + the slimmer case of that one.

I quoted the whole thing so Trolly wouldn't think I was taking anything out of context, but bolded what caught my attention.

So Troll, with respect to you, that tidbit of info about the plastic recoil cover must not have been on your spec sheet. New information for you that only came from someone who handled the saw.

Now, you acknowledge it will make a slight difference. I wonder if you also acknowledge the possibility that there may be further slight differences that can't be gleaned from published specs. If you are as logical and objective as you present yourself, you must agree the possibility exists.

Clearly, in the above quote, you already have acknowledged that not everything of value about a saw's handling can be gleaned from specs.

So from now on you will just look silly when you attempt to make definitive statements about a saw's handling characteristics without having run it.

Onward!

I'll be really interested in how the stock 346 times compare with the stock 261 times when Brad gets that 346 in the door. It's fun to see how they stack up against each other.

But it's not very important.

 

[BloodOnTheIce]

You ladies done squawking?

 

[PLMCRZY]

You ladies done squawking?

:hmm3grin2orange: I was just thinking the same thing.....

 

[THALL10326]

You ladies done squawking?

Blood I'm looking at that saw and thinking hmmmmmmmm, nice, why, here's why,:hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

I'm big Dan T, those other two, guess who they are,LOLOL



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[sunfish]

Very entertaining, Gents! :biggrinbounce2:

I would sure hope the new Stihl beats the 346xp, which came out in 1999.

 

[FATGUY]

Yes I agree. Here in-lies the problem. And I'm going to say it before its all said and done, otherwise some people will call me out and just say I'm a cheerleader.

Slinger said he showed over 50% gain with a 346 he did. How much did Brad get out of his? Not sure.

I think a stock for stock is a better comparison. Because depending on the builder they outcome could be swayed? What if Brad does these two saws, and the 261 comes out on top?

Then what if someone else comes along and mods the same 2 saws and the 346 comes out on top? See what I'm saying, there are so many variables to this, when modding saws.

I personally don't care what saw comes out on top, I like the Husky design better. But that's just my opinion.

Just so you all know, Brad's 346 kicked the snot out of a Slingr ported 346 last year at WKPoors winter GTG.....

 

[blsnelling]

Just so you all know, Brad's 346 kicked the snot out of a Slingr ported 346 last year at WKPoors winter GTG.....

Please. The last thing I want to do is turn this into a builders war. But on the other hand, I don't want the results of this 261/346 competition to be tainted by perceived perfomance of the mods. Take the saws for what they are. Both are being modded by the same modder, so are reflective of how each saw responds to similiar treatment.