TSA comes to AS?

[Philip Wheelock]

OK, I don't want this to come off the wrong way...

Well, then stop overreacting. Associating the TSA, communist threats, and blackballing with someone's business decision is an incendiary way of starting a "discussion", seems to me. Local dealer I know sells these saws every day and none have come back yet.

 

[Chris J.]

Well, then stop overreacting. Associating the TSA, communist threats, and blackballing with someone's business decision is an incendiary way of starting a "discussion", seems to me. Local dealer I know sells these saws every day and none have come back yet.

Yes, the comparisons are a bit extreme, but I'm pretty sure that Spike60 was trying to insert a little humor into his post. The last sentence in your post supports what Spike is trying to tell us.

 

[spike60]

Well, then stop overreacting. Associating the TSA, communist threats, and blackballing with someone's business decision is an incendiary way of starting a "discussion", seems to me. Local dealer I know sells these saws every day and none have come back yet.

Phil, you might over reacting yourself. Obviously, joking about the 50's is to put a little tongue in cheek humor into the discussion. And I'm sure most guys would get the irony of the "no port list" with the "no fly list". Trying to keep it light hearted, and Randy and I have no problems with each other. And he's not even the guy who started the separate "no port list" thread. None of us are all seeing or all knowing. I just want to counter the effects of that thread which is running away with itself.

 

[spike60]

Yes, the comparisons are a bit extreme, but I'm pretty sure that Spike60 was trying to insert a little humor into his post. The last sentence in your post supports what Spike is trying to tell us.

Exactly, and thank you.

 

[stihl sawing]

Where is this no port list thread? I don't see it in chainsaw.

 

[stihl sawing]

Ok I found it.

 

[spike60]

Did he say anything about the saws not running well stock??
If not. The carb doesn't port well?
The man only wants to do a good job.
Can't be the best on every saw.
You get spread too thin.
He is still learning.
You have to have a very good knowledge of a subject before you realize what you don't know.
He is a two man shop. Heluva lot to know.

Again, this was not meant IN ANY WAY as a shot at Randy. I've sold him a bunch of saws, he's ported a 288 and 390 for me. (both awesome) Consider him a buddy. So don't read anything into my post that isn't there.

Just don't want this "no port list" thread to continue to take on a life of it's own without countering it with other viewpoints.

 

[blsnelling]

I still want to get my greasy mitts on a 2260 someday

 

[boxygen]

Its important to note the obvious here that Randy is making MODIFIED saws. Husqvarna did not design the AT saws (or any other) with any agreement to the consumer that these will be modified and work normally. This is somewhat new territory and there will be bugs to be worked out. Everyone who mods a saw or buys a modded saw takes on this risk and liability. Thats how the "no port list" started. It wasnt based on the premise that the stock base saw is a piece of junk. Randy has chosed to hedge his risk in making his customers happy in his modified chainsaw world. I agree with Spike in starting this thread because with a guy with a persona like MASTERMIND says something, everyone listens. But, that does mean that it cant be misinterpreted or taken out of context, whch I think is what is happening here. And I think we all have seen it here before in other ways.

That being said, I think its absolutely pathetic that HUSQVARNA corportate cant tell you what a screw inside the carb does or why its there. And I think there are many others who are feeling that type of frustration on their modified or unmodified saws in the dealer and hobbiest world, You can quote BOXYGEN on that as his opinion, not anyone else. I will humbly admit I am wrong if anyone can provide further info, and I admit I only know what I know from reading an anonymous internet forum.

 

[blsnelling]

Great post. There are some models that I won't port either, and they're not all the same one's as Randy. The reasons vary. I fully understand Randy's decision, as well as Bob's point in this thread.

 

[Mastermind]

Bob, we are friends.......and I hope we always are. I hate to think I did or said anything that could have hurt anyone's sales. I can say with some certainty that folks may put way too much stock in something an old guy that works on saws in his backyard says on an internet forum.

I never meant to cause a ruckus. I'm sorry if that happened. I didn't start any threads saying I had an issue with this saw. I just made a comment that it would be better if I didn't mess with them anymore. I just have so many other saws that I need to be working on.....

I also said the I wouldn't do a Dolmar 5100. That saw has carb problems that make me want to pull my hair out....at this point in my life, I don't need that crap.

I've said this many times......the 562XP is a great saw. I've done a bunch of them. Somewhere between 30 - 40 of them. They've always been perfect runners.......till just here lately.

I never had any trouble until the last few. Of the last 6, 3 have had exactly the same issues. After about an hour of run time, the saw starts hesitating after idling for more than a few seconds. When the throttle is touched......the saw stumbles and dies. I do not know how to fix that issue YET. Nor do I have unlimited resources to spend trying to fix it.

I'd rather just step away from this unit. It may be that the mods I'm doing are messing up the thing.....I really don't know.

 

[Jacob J.]

I'd rather just step away from this unit. It may be that the mods I'm doing are messing up the thing.....I really don't know.

It's a design issue on Husqvarna's part. One thing to realize with these new models is the marketing momentum behind them. The big saw companies create and keep excitement in their OPE lines with innovation. Everyone gets excited when a new model is announced and there's always a fervor within the OPE company to get that new model to market. Sometimes design issues aren't always worked out. Sometimes the "fix" is worse than the original issue.

 

[Mastermind]

I'm just trying to be honest with everyone about what I can, and can not do.

 

[cheeves]

You did of course do the right thing, and in a nice way as usual!

There really was a need for this thread!

It seems there is a need for further investigation and discussion! I'm sure the truth will come out!
I for one would definately buy a 562 and have it Ported!

 

[cheeves]

I'm just trying to be honest with everyone about what I can, and can not do.

Too bad we couldn't talk to that engineer from Zanoah that came up with this design!

 

[Mastermind]

There's nothing wrong with the design. Talking with Wiggs last night, he had an idea about changing the drill pattern in the carb just a wee bit. That may well end up being the thing that works for me.

 

[Jacob J.]

There's nothing wrong with the design. Talking with Wiggs last night, he had an idea about changing the drill pattern in the carb just a wee bit. That may well end up being the thing that works for me.

The design of the engine is fine but obviously there were problems with the design of the fuel system. There's already been four updates, with more to come.

 

[nmurph]

There's nothing wrong with the design. Talking with Wiggs last night, he had an idea about changing the drill pattern in the carb just a wee bit. That may well end up being the thing that works for me.

What do you mean, drill pattern? I saw you reference it in regards to boring out the 372 carb.

 

[Mastermind]

The drill pattern I'm referring to is the drill sizes of the idle, off idle, and transition, and at times the size of the main nozzle, or feeder holes.

 

[zogger]

Bob, we are friends.......and I hope we always are. I hate to think I did or said anything that could have hurt anyone's sales. I can say with some certainty that folks may put way too much stock in something an old guy that works on saws in his backyard says on an internet forum.

I never meant to cause a ruckus. I'm sorry if that happened. I didn't start any threads saying I had an issue with this saw. I just made a comment that it would be better if I didn't mess with them anymore. I just have so many other saws that I need to be working on.....

I also said the I wouldn't do a Dolmar 5100. That saw has carb problems that make me want to pull my hair out....at this point in my life, I don't need that crap.

I've said this many times......the 562XP is a great saw. I've done a bunch of them. Somewhere between 30 - 40 of them. They've always been perfect runners.......till just here lately.

I never had any trouble until the last few. Of the last 6, 3 have had exactly the same issues. After about an hour of run time, the saw starts hesitating after idling for more than a few seconds. When the throttle is touched......the saw stumbles and dies. I do not know how to fix that issue YET. Nor do I have unlimited resources to spend trying to fix it.

I'd rather just step away from this unit. It may be that the mods I'm doing are messing up the thing.....I really don't know.

All else the same, same exact porting, etc, sounds suspiciously like just a bad run of carbs got through maybe.

But who knows.