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What is a full comp chain?
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MS460WOODCHUCK
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A chain that has one drivelink and one strap between the cutters.
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Cutter Tooth Sequences Explained
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Standard sequence or what we usually call full-compliment, has the most cutting teeth of the three sequences. Its many teeth make it the smoothest and fastest cutting on jobs that require short cuts. Professional saw users usually run it on saws with short to medium length bars or on jobs where extensive limbing is required.
Semi-Skip is a compromise between standard and full skip sequence. Half of its teeth are close together like standard and half are like full skip. Users who run it claim it is the most versatile configuration. Our sales indicate it is the least popular of the three sequences.
Full-Skip is our best selling sequence. It is usually preferred by customers who run long bars and cut large softwood trees. Long cuts, common in these conditions, require the chain to carry chips a long distance before they are expelled. Since chips ride in the spaces under and between the cutter teeth, users have found that by reducing the number of teeth, a chain's chip clearing ability improves. On long and deep cuts, this enhances its performance. A side benefit is that it takes less time to sharpen than the other sequences. Its bad traits include that it is prone to vibration, its lack of cutter teeth make it grabby in short cuts, and its kickback potential is high.
Stay-Sharp Ability
When selecting a sequence for saw chain, another consideration is a chain's stay-sharp ability. A number of experienced pro chain saw users say, full-comp chain tends to stay sharp longer than the skip-tooth configurations.
Our Advice
Bars 24" & Under
When running a bar length of 24" or less, full compliment is the best choice. It will always be the fastest and smoothest cutting sequence on short cutting attachments. Even those who are tempted to select a skip tooth configuration to reduce sharpening time, will find full compliment doesn't take much longer to sharpen. On short bar applications, there are are not that many more teeth.
Bars 28" - 32"
When running bar lengths of 28" to 32", the best sequence is less certain. In this range of bar lengths, the size of the cuts being made with the saw should to be taken into consideration when selecting the sequence. For example, sometimes longer bars are used to minimize bending on a job that requires a lot of limbing. In this case, the cuts are more similar to what would be done with short bars, so a full compliment chain is the best choice. On the other hand, if most cuts on the job require burying the bar in a deep cut, a skip sequence would probably be the best choice.
Bars 34" & Longer
When running bar lengths of 36" or longer, a skip sequence is usually the best choice. These bars are rarely run to eliminate bending over, and most often are used on jobs that require deep cuts. Even with these conditions, we do occasionally see full-compliment chain being run when the job also requires a fair amount of limbing. In the end, the best sequence for you requires some compromise and consideration of many factors.
Cutter Tooth Sequences Explained
Sequence Image
Standard sequence or what we usually call full-compliment, has the most cutting teeth of the three sequences. Its many teeth make it the smoothest and fastest cutting on jobs that require short cuts. Professional saw users usually run it on saws with short to medium length bars or on jobs where extensive limbing is required.
Semi-Skip is a compromise between standard and full skip sequence. Half of its teeth are close together like standard and half are like full skip. Users who run it claim it is the most versatile configuration. Our sales indicate it is the least popular of the three sequences.
Full-Skip is our best selling sequence. It is usually preferred by customers who run long bars and cut large softwood trees. Long cuts, common in these conditions, require the chain to carry chips a long distance before they are expelled. Since chips ride in the spaces under and between the cutter teeth, users have found that by reducing the number of teeth, a chain's chip clearing ability improves. On long and deep cuts, this enhances its performance. A side benefit is that it takes less time to sharpen than the other sequences. Its bad traits include that it is prone to vibration, its lack of cutter teeth make it grabby in short cuts, and its kickback potential is high.
Stay-Sharp Ability
When selecting a sequence for saw chain, another consideration is a chain's stay-sharp ability. A number of experienced pro chain saw users say, full-comp chain tends to stay sharp longer than the skip-tooth configurations.
Our Advice
Bars 24" & Under
When running a bar length of 24" or less, full compliment is the best choice. It will always be the fastest and smoothest cutting sequence on short cutting attachments. Even those who are tempted to select a skip tooth configuration to reduce sharpening time, will find full compliment doesn't take much longer to sharpen. On short bar applications, there are are not that many more teeth.
Bars 28" - 32"
When running bar lengths of 28" to 32", the best sequence is less certain. In this range of bar lengths, the size of the cuts being made with the saw should to be taken into consideration when selecting the sequence. For example, sometimes longer bars are used to minimize bending on a job that requires a lot of limbing. In this case, the cuts are more similar to what would be done with short bars, so a full compliment chain is the best choice. On the other hand, if most cuts on the job require burying the bar in a deep cut, a skip sequence would probably be the best choice.
Bars 34" & Longer
When running bar lengths of 36" or longer, a skip sequence is usually the best choice. These bars are rarely run to eliminate bending over, and most often are used on jobs that require deep cuts. Even with these conditions, we do occasionally see full-compliment chain being run when the job also requires a fair amount of limbing. In the end, the best sequence for you requires some compromise and consideration of many factors.
Chain sequences.
BIG BEAM
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Thanks MM I'm a noob but because of people like you I'm learning fast.
Thanks again
And thanks ray benson a pic IS worth a thousand words!
DON
Thanks again
And thanks ray benson a pic IS worth a thousand words!
DON
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WalterWhite
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And the chain I use has training wheels. It is like the full skip except in between the cutters it has a ridge that gives it anti-kickback properties. I doubt that I'll ever have enough experience to abandon the training wheels, but I keep it sharp and It cuts well enough.
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Oldsawnut
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Its an excuse to spend an extra 5 min sharpening your chain. If you like that kind of thing 
WalterWhite
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I do like that kind of thing. There's a certain satisfaction from touching the file to chain, feeling the results in the next cut and knowing that the equipment is performing at its best.:rockn:Its an excuse to spend an extra 5 min sharpening your chain. If you like that kind of thing
BIG BEAM
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I have 3 chains with training wheels and 3 without.Didn't try the one without training wheels yet but the one with sure did cut like h#ll.I enjoy sharpening things too.Even my new chains get a touch up when brand new now that I know what I'm doing.
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SawTroll
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Another way to put it is that full skip has about 66% the cutters of a full comp chain, and a semi-skip about 83.3%.
The exact numbers depends on the dl count of the chain, dl counts that are dividable by 12 will result in those exact numbers, while dl counts dividable by 6 also will between full comp and full skip - all provided that the person spinning the loop does his job correctly........
As someone else said, skip chain will of course dull faster, as there are fewer cutters doing the same job.
The exact numbers depends on the dl count of the chain, dl counts that are dividable by 12 will result in those exact numbers, while dl counts dividable by 6 also will between full comp and full skip - all provided that the person spinning the loop does his job correctly........
As someone else said, skip chain will of course dull faster, as there are fewer cutters doing the same job.
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Banacanin
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This is a great thread for us noobs, it should be added to Edisto's list of threads
BIG BEAM
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What chain is best for ripping in knots?Can you use a full comp?
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SawTroll
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I always do, and I do a lot of it since most of my wood is birch, and well North of the Polar Circle.....
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