Why we talk about burning dry wood
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In post#6 you said you put a chunk of"green"red oak on a hot fire.In post #14 You said you put a few sticks of green wood on.In post #23 you said you used green wood once or twice out of necessity. In this post you said you burned nothing but green wood last year. Kind of makes you wonder.
At 63 I am not an old,old timer,but I am pretty old. I put a fire in and it pretty much stays in until April,unless we get a couple really warm days.I burn what I consider to be a pretty warm fire. But I can not just let it go hot and leave it hot,I control it by the air and the amount of wood I put on it
Cedar-Acres
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Now - now Oldtimer. As I tell my 9 year old son, "That was rude!"
This is still a free country. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and are free to do as they wish. But name calling, even if just implied as you have done, is low and uncalled for. There is no reason we can't all share our experiences and opinions on this forum and in some cases just agree to disagree. Passions will flare, but we can remain civilized at the same time.
I for one agree with the dry wood science and understand the physics involved. My background is in science and physics and I have a well above average understanding of Thermodynamics. So I will believe what I know to be true and you can believe whatever you think. I openly disagree with you yet hold no ill will against you. I wish you the best in your chosen method of heating with wood and sincerely hope nothing bad comes of it.
This is still a free country. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and are free to do as they wish. But name calling, even if just implied as you have done, is low and uncalled for. There is no reason we can't all share our experiences and opinions on this forum and in some cases just agree to disagree. Passions will flare, but we can remain civilized at the same time.
I for one agree with the dry wood science and understand the physics involved. My background is in science and physics and I have a well above average understanding of Thermodynamics. So I will believe what I know to be true and you can believe whatever you think. I openly disagree with you yet hold no ill will against you. I wish you the best in your chosen method of heating with wood and sincerely hope nothing bad comes of it.
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When I said once or twice, I was being sarcastic. Burned green wood as much as dry in my time.
When I said a few sticks, or a piece I was meaning as needed to go overnight or keep the green wood burning by allowing the water to cook off in the heat. It's why I said to put a piece in as soon as there's room for it.
Not trying to be difficult. Obviously, dry wood is the best wood.
I did burn green wood all last year, sad, since I am a logger. I had a bunch of dry stored up and sold it because I wanted the cash and I knew I could burn green and be OK. Not sweating in my undies, but OK. Persecuted the ash pretty heavily.
this last winter had plenty of seasoned oak to burn for the entire winter.
we had an extra cold winter in Tulsa and ended up burning about 4.5 cords.
used about 40% green oak by choice. had plenty of seasoned and green on hand.
most of the seasoned wood was burned early for small hot fires early season.
seasoned wood is used to get fire good and hot.
then green wood goes on using bottom red hot logs to get green logs up to temp.
from once fire gets good and hot. then if I want to JUCA will run nicely on green logs only.
proof of the pudding is what comes out your chimney. Almost no smoke with green logs at full tilt.
JUCA's internal angles increases draft speeds much like a forced air fan.
end result is a very HOT fire.
there are disadvantages of JUCA's open burn system. one is short burn times if you don't load large chunks of wood. loads of identical weight of wood will burn completely differently depending on how wood is in logs or smaller split wood. unless wood is over 18in diameter x 24in or approaching too large to handle. wood is not split but burned in log form to extend burn times.
we had an extra cold winter in Tulsa and ended up burning about 4.5 cords.
used about 40% green oak by choice. had plenty of seasoned and green on hand.
most of the seasoned wood was burned early for small hot fires early season.
seasoned wood is used to get fire good and hot.
then green wood goes on using bottom red hot logs to get green logs up to temp.
from once fire gets good and hot. then if I want to JUCA will run nicely on green logs only.
proof of the pudding is what comes out your chimney. Almost no smoke with green logs at full tilt.
JUCA's internal angles increases draft speeds much like a forced air fan.
end result is a very HOT fire.
there are disadvantages of JUCA's open burn system. one is short burn times if you don't load large chunks of wood. loads of identical weight of wood will burn completely differently depending on how wood is in logs or smaller split wood. unless wood is over 18in diameter x 24in or approaching too large to handle. wood is not split but burned in log form to extend burn times.
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I cut 4 cords of red oak this past winter and it will be burned in 2014/15.
J.W Younger
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I cut a pick up load of elm today.Hopefully it won't be burned for a few years.
Gonna try and get a few years ahead here.
Gonna try and get a few years ahead here.
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I say every year that I'm gonna get ahead and never do. I always end up cutting as I need.
The only good thing is that there is enough dead elm, ash, and other dead trees that are "seasoned on the stick" as I call it, to pretty much not have to burn much green.
My OWB doesn't seem to do as well as many others with green wood. I will burn green often enough due to having to cut something that has fallen in the creek or something. I just have to have some HOT burning stuff under it. Does work well in the spring and fall though to slow the fire down.
I will agree that it can in SOME wood burning set ups, Lengthen the burn time.
I will also say that it is a bit tiresome getting the "seasoned wood only" shoved down our throats like it's the gospel. Sure it's the better way to go for many reasons but I doubt God will strike us down for it.
The only good thing is that there is enough dead elm, ash, and other dead trees that are "seasoned on the stick" as I call it, to pretty much not have to burn much green.
My OWB doesn't seem to do as well as many others with green wood. I will burn green often enough due to having to cut something that has fallen in the creek or something. I just have to have some HOT burning stuff under it. Does work well in the spring and fall though to slow the fire down.
I will agree that it can in SOME wood burning set ups, Lengthen the burn time.
I will also say that it is a bit tiresome getting the "seasoned wood only" shoved down our throats like it's the gospel. Sure it's the better way to go for many reasons but I doubt God will strike us down for it.
wooddog 066
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I'll bet if I dump a 1/2 gallon of water in the gas tank of my car that tank will last a LOT longer. Maybe I should save a pile of snowballs to throw in the boiler this winter too. Personally I don't even like seasoned wood to get any rain or snow before burning.
Green Mulberry Experience
I recall one of my good friends trying to burn green mulberry about four years ago. I told him not to do that. He said, "Forget it. My stove burns hot." He plugged his chimney three times during the winter. After that, he let it sit for a full year before he loaded it into the stove.
No more plugged chimney.
I recall one of my good friends trying to burn green mulberry about four years ago. I told him not to do that. He said, "Forget it. My stove burns hot." He plugged his chimney three times during the winter. After that, he let it sit for a full year before he loaded it into the stove.
No more plugged chimney.
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