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I got my 4218 back together, it's much stronger than it was. I thinned the transfer covers and widened the uppers a bit. I got two more WildThangs, 2375s to play with as well. I have to get a video camera with sound. :cry:
 
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I think someone asked earlier about ring end gap and compression. The cylinder now on my saw is in excellent condition. A new ring had .028" end gap. Compression after only a tune up run, no cutting, is already 142-145. It would be nice to see 150 after a little run time, but that at least give you and idea what you can expect out of a healthy engine.
 
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Ok, I'm not a saw racer but I'm giving it a try and its trying for me!

Went out and run the saw with a couple different chain, sprockets and bar combos. The saw ran great though, never missed a beat, but my times were all over the place. I think it was from the stop watch lady, (my wife) who got roped into helping me.

Then there was the oak log that I had. I thought I was doing better but then it seemed to slow down again, then I found the knot in the log! :dizzy:

Then I found the dirt in the log and had to sharpen the chain. :dizzy:

I also found that this little saw will pull a 16" with .325 LPX pretty darn good, but the time keeper said it was slower then the low pro. :dizzy:

Oh well we will see how it rus this weekend.
 
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I'm running .325 LPX on mine too, I have some .325 Carlton on the way to try. I had a blast building this saw, I think it will be more fun running them. I think it's one of the easiest saws to work on. :cheers:
 
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I'm running .325 LPX on mine too, I have some .325 Carlton on the way to try. I had a blast building this saw, I think it will be more fun running them. I think it's one of the easiest saws to work on. :cheers:

My findings on my other 50cc saws like the PP325 and Jred 490 showed out of the box the WP/Carlton sucked. It was better after it was sharpend but the LPX blows it away.

Yeah I have to say I had fun messing around this afternoon.
 
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I'm running .325 LPX on mine too, I have some .325 Carlton on the way to try. I had a blast building this saw, I think it will be more fun running them. I think it's one of the easiest saws to work on. :cheers:
The LPX cuts faster off the reel.I have'nt been able to file it useing a 3/16th and have it cut as well as the factory grind, but I can using a goofy.
FWIW I think the LPX clears the chips a little better too.
My saw is a 2550, which is just a wild thing with A/V.
 
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The LPX cuts faster off the reel.I have'nt been able to file it useing a 3/16th and have it cut as well as the factory grind, but I can using a goofy.
FWIW I think the LPX clears the chips a little better too.
My saw is a 2550, which is just a wild thing with A/V.

Thanks for the info. I haven't really used much .325. I cut a few cookies today, I was shocked with the pile of large chips the LPX made.
 
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My findings on my other 50cc saws like the PP325 and Jred 490 showed out of the box the WP/Carlton sucked. It was better after it was sharpend but the LPX blows it away.

Yeah I have to say I had fun messing around this afternoon.

My "multi-quote" didn't work... I thought the LPX was quite impressive. :cheers:
 
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I FINALLY have a few actual days off this week. Sounds like I'm missing alot of fun here. Did we decide that Husky 36/41/136/141 were in on the WT class? I was wanting a "bigger" saw, but maybe I'll assemble the 136 under my bench in a box while I look for a 141 engine. I have to build (another) 290 tomorrow and mail out some stuff, and then I'm going to settle down with the 136 jug if it is going to be legal. What is the consensus on these?

Also, anyone having issues with the crank bearings on these? I have not looked at the WT IPL, but the 136 husky uses a crappy crank seal that encompasses the bearing. Looks like a weak point where the crank could walk around if you mod it. The bearing is essentially mounted in s rubber (!) shell!!!! I'm going to be looking for a 41 engine for the saw to get real bearings an seals.
 
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Anyone have a cylinder for a 42cc?. I scored my original a few years ago messing with the carb. How about a part # for a new cylinder?.

I'n sure a welded up piston could really help. My squish was .049-.051!.
 
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I FINALLY have a few actual days off this week. Sounds like I'm missing alot of fun here. Did we decide that Husky 36/41/136/141 were in on the WT class? I was wanting a "bigger" saw, but maybe I'll assemble the 136 under my bench in a box while I look for a 141 engine. I have to build (another) 290 tomorrow and mail out some stuff, and then I'm going to settle down with the 136 jug if it is going to be legal. What is the consensus on these?

Also, anyone having issues with the crank bearings on these? I have not looked at the WT IPL, but the 136 husky uses a crappy crank seal that encompasses the bearing. Looks like a weak point where the crank could walk around if you mod it. The bearing is essentially mounted in s rubber (!) shell!!!! I'm going to be looking for a 41 engine for the saw to get real bearings an seals.


I'm not sure!
I heard that it was going to be Wildthings only.
Then I heard it was going to be Wildthings and their "exact same saw different case" derivatives.
Then I heard it was going to be Poulan clamshells.
Then I hear guys talking about building Huskies and J-reds and Partners.
I tried to solve the issues with classes and they didn't like that either.
So, I am out of the rules committee.
Youall decide and let me know.
I don't care what the rules are as long as they are the same for everybody.

I will be running a purple and green Wildthing and a black and maroon Craftsman 4218 Wildthing.


Mike
 
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I'm not sure!
I heard that it was going to be Wildthings only.
Then I heard it was going to be Wildthings and their "exact same saw different case" derivatives.
Then I heard it was going to be Poulan clamshells.
Then I hear guys talking about building Huskies and J-reds and Partners.
I tried to solve the issues with classes and they didn't like that either.
So, I am out of the rules committee.
Youall decide and let me know.
I don't care what the rules are as long as they are the same for everybody.

I will be running a purple and green Wildthing and a black and maroon Craftsman 4218 Wildthing.


Mike

WildThing is the title of this thread.:dunno:
 
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Anyone have a cylinder for a 42cc?. I scored my original a few years ago messing with the carb. How about a part # for a new cylinder?.

I'n sure a welded up piston could really help. My squish was .049-.051!.
that sounds like a lot, most i have checked were 36-39. The piston may be rocking in the bore.Try it with the solder above the pin or with two pieces one on the intake side and the other above the exh port.If the cyl is badly scored you may have a lot of clearance at the skirt.May be one piece of solder cut the width of the bore inserted through the ex port.Whatever it is, is what you're stuck with with a clamshell.
 
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I FINALLY have a few actual days off this week. Sounds like I'm missing alot of fun here. Did we decide that Husky 36/41/136/141 were in on the WT class? I was wanting a "bigger" saw, but maybe I'll assemble the 136 under my bench in a box while I look for a 141 engine. I have to build (another) 290 tomorrow and mail out some stuff, and then I'm going to settle down with the 136 jug if it is going to be legal. What is the consensus on these?

Also, anyone having issues with the crank bearings on these? I have not looked at the WT IPL, but the 136 husky uses a crappy crank seal that encompasses the bearing. Looks like a weak point where the crank could walk around if you mod it. The bearing is essentially mounted in s rubber (!) shell!!!! I'm going to be looking for a 41 engine for the saw to get real bearings an seals.

Tim, I'm not so sure that the 41 would use a different brg/seal assy. I don't have a IPL handy for a 41 but do have the 141 IPL and they show the same brg.

I replaced some in a well used saw awhile back for a friend at work, but only because the seals were leaking, not the brg being bad. They were $8 a piece if I remember right.

This 2500 series saw does use a regular brg with a hard plastic seal on the outside of it. Is the 41 based off of this saw?

If your changing the brgs on the WT be carefull getting that so called oiler gear off of it without the Poulan tool for it. I didnt have one when I did the last one but I did pry it carefully off with a screwdriver and had to carefully space it out when I put it back on.

I have the tool on order right now as well as the one for the 2500 type saw. The dealer said it makes it a snap to change that gear and they only cost a couple of dollars each.

EDIT, I did find that I did have a 41 IPL and they do indeed have the same seal and brg setup as the 2500. But if that is the case that means the 41 engine wont bolt into a 136 chassis far as I can tell.
 
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