Anyone use amsoil products in there saw

[oneoldbanjo]

I don't mean this offinsively, but if you're not uninformed, then you care more about brand than quality. I've proven that with the small saws.

I am not familiar with what you have proven......but I bet most homeowners feel like they are well informed when they do research on the internet and find stuff like this:

http://www.consumersearch.com/chainsaws/stihl-ms-180-c-be

http://www.reviewboard.com/reviews/tools_and_hardware/4052-Stihl-180---Gas-Chain-Saw-Review.html

Stihl has a good name, even in homeowners saws, and when people look on the internet or ask friends Stihl will be recommended most often. My uncle has a 180 and when the wind breaks the branches out of his Bradford Pear trees his saw always runs and cuts them up....he uses his saw about 2 hours a year and will never wear it out. The local hardware store that sold him the Stihl is a family owned business and has been around for almost 50 years....they are a Stihl Elite Dealer and will be there for him if he ever needs them. If for some reason they aren't....there are 2 more dealers within 10 miles that have also been in business for that long. There may be a better value or better running saw for homeowners.......but most of them will never know about them as they are not marketing the saw in any way that the average homeowner will ever learn about them and feel comfortable about buying an Efco, Shindawa, etc. If he buys a saw from the Big Box Stores....he won't have anyone around to help him when it fails to run.

 

[Klotzlubemn]

Hey XCR440,

Wow, my 2nd day here...this is just like HCS.COM!

always fun reading....

Rick

 

[xcr440]

Hey XCR440,

Wow, my 2nd day here...this is just like HCS.COM!

always fun reading....

Rick

Hey rick. Good to see ya here. Good stuff as always.

 

[Motodeficient]

yep this is pretty much like every oil thread on HCS or any dirtbike forum, etc

 

[brucew44guns]

the way i look at it is stihl makes saws not the oil who knows where they get there oil. amsoil just makes oil so i figure amsoil is going to be way better. Stihl probably just finds the cheapest one and markes it up as there own

These are interesting remarks. Peterbilt and Kenworth are the premier two American trucks, and the motors are filled at the factory with Chevron Delo 400 in 15W40. It doesn't prove that Delo is the best, but you can bet that the stuff will work a great work in the trucks engine for the life of the vehicle. Caterpillar contracts with Mobil Oil to blend and make "Cat" oil, and while Cat does not make the oil themself, it has their name on it and it is blended to their own specs, and is a great oil to use in anything. I believe, that if Stihl contracts with a blender to make their oil, they have a close relationship with that oil company. It is a prized account for the oil blender, and Stihl is going to demand the best they can get, seeing their name is on the label. The Oil Blender is going to bust their butt to do an excellent job for Stihl. But----it still does prove that their's is the best, but a guy should be able to rest fairly well at night, knowing Stihl oil lubricates his Stihls. Same way with Husky oil, or Echo etc., being used in those brands. As far as Ams Oil goes, is it factory fill at Corvette? ANS== No, that honor goes to Mobil One. But that does not prove that Mobil One is better, but it sure does impress one very convincingly that Chevy chose Mobil One to factory fill the engine of a Corvette, it must work well or they would not put it in.. It would be interesting to know exactly what ratio to use Ams Oil with each brand of saw for ultimate long life of that particular engine brand. I bet it would be fantastic, to see the stats of long life and good service.

 

[brinkwolf]

Ok, after reading all 9 pages I will post. I sell and use Amsoil in my vehicles. I have tried other oils both synthetic and mineral based and have chose to stick with Amsoil(I just feel it's better). Now I haven't tried it in my 2 cycle engines yet but do stock both Amsoil Sabre and Interceptor oils. The only thing holding me back from using these two fine oils so far is that I'm not an Arborist or a small engine only dealer like some of you on here. I use my saws and weedeaters every once in a while and so the mix sits longer than most of yours would. For this reason I use chainsaw branded 2 stroke oils only because they have oil stabilizers in them and I don't have to add Stabil or Seafoam to stabilize them. I know the Amsoil dosen't have it because I have read the bottles and no where does it say stabilizer in it. I may try it sometime, but for now the oil I have will be run in my equipment.

 

[cmarti]

I am so discouraged, I have to sell my Stihl homeowner saws and use mail order oil at 100:1......Life has gotten soooo complicated, :help:

 

[ProMac1000]

I've used Amsoil Sabre at 50:1 in all my saws new and old for years as well as my in weed eaters, leaf blowers and snow blowers. I also use Amsoil motor oils in my vehicles, ATV, even my compressors and splitter. So ultimately use what works for you... but I have not burned up a saw or had any engine or transmission issues or failures since using it. So that in itself has been worth it, hype or not...

 

[sloch24]

I use Saber @ 50:1, but only after reading here that it's not a good Idea to run it at 100:1. I ran it in all of my stuff (maybe 2 tanks through my chainsaw) and noticed no difference whatsoever. I'm on my 2nd quart of the stuff, and it works well. I also dump in a little sta-bil to keep it fresh for a little longer cuz I'm just a homeowner. If Amsoil really wanted to compete with Stihl Ultra, they would add a fuel stabilizer. (IMO)

 

[Mama Tried]

I use Saber @ 50:1, but only after reading here that it's not a good Idea to run it at 100:1. I ran it in all of my stuff (maybe 2 tanks through my chainsaw) and noticed no difference whatsoever. I'm on my 2nd quart of the stuff, and it works well. I also dump in a little sta-bil to keep it fresh for a little longer cuz I'm just a homeowner. If Amsoil really wanted to compete with Stihl Ultra, they would add a fuel stabilizer. (IMO)

Ive contacted them about that.

 

[TimberFaller660]

ive been running red-line 2 cycle allsport at 50:1 for a year or so.it seems to be pretty good stuff.

 

[TimberFaller660]

also i forgot to mention my dad has burned up about 4 saws running stihl oil in them. we're the only people i know thats had problems with it that i know of.

 

[parrisw]

I won't touch the stuff. I don't freaking trust it. If I burn something up running that stuff are they going to buy me a new one? Unlikely.

Where does this attitude come from??? Ive heard a few people like this, why so SOUR?? I don't get it? I've been running Sabre professional at 50:1 for a few years now, no problems, burns very clean, best stuff I've used, I also ran it at 100:1 in a ported 288xp with no problems.

Give your head a shake????????????

 

[sbhooper]

The lack of a listed stabilizer is not a reason for rejecting Amsoil. I have had mix sitting for long periods-like over several months-with no adverse effects what so ever. I have had it sit in the tank of weed eaters etc. for an entire winter and it starts and runs great. I don't have that problem with my chainsaws as I use them heavily now virtually year around.

I will say again, I have used 100:1 to cut lots of wood. I now run it 50:1 just because I choose to. The 100:1 is perfectly safe. If you don't want to run it-THEN DON'T-but don't bad mouth a great product if you are not willing to try it.

I have been a lifetime dealer with Amsoil for many years and I refuse to run petroleum oil in any engine that I own. It just plain does not hold a candle to synthetic. Why do you think that they can only use synthetic oil in turbine engines? They burn up with petroleum. Helicopters etc. will crash. The new corvette engines use ONLY synthetic or they will burn up. I could go on for hours with sythetic stories of success.

The bottom line is that Saber 100:1 is a good reliable product. If you want to use it-go for it. If you don't that is perfectly fine and it is your choice, but don't bad mouth a good product without solid proof that it caused a failure.

 

[Zero Gravity]

The lack of fuel stabilizer is a big issue. I have motorcycle gas mixed year round. Because I don't use all the saws enough I have had several gum up running on the motorcycle gas. The chainsaw carbs have a three stage pilot system that has very small orifices. The last thing I want to do is remove the welch plug to clean these jets. All of the professional saw manufactures includes stabilizer in their oil. There is a reason for this!
ZG

 

[WetGunPowder]

The lack of a listed stabilizer is not a reason for rejecting Amsoil. I have had mix sitting for long periods-like over several months-with no adverse effects what so ever. I have had it sit in the tank of weed eaters etc. for an entire winter and it starts and runs great. I don't have that problem with my chainsaws as I use them heavily now virtually year around.

I will say again, I have used 100:1 to cut lots of wood. I now run it 50:1 just because I choose to. The 100:1 is perfectly safe. If you don't want to run it-THEN DON'T-but don't bad mouth a great product if you are not willing to try it.

I have been a lifetime dealer with Amsoil for many years and I refuse to run petroleum oil in any engine that I own. It just plain does not hold a candle to synthetic. Why do you think that they can only use synthetic oil in turbine engines? They burn up with petroleum. Helicopters etc. will crash. The new corvette engines use ONLY synthetic or they will burn up. I could go on for hours with sythetic stories of success.

The bottom line is that Saber 100:1 is a good reliable product. If you want to use it-go for it. If you don't that is perfectly fine and it is your choice, but don't bad mouth a good product without solid proof that it caused a failure.

:agree2:

 

[04ultra]

Im down to 5 qts of Mobil 2T







.

 

[Zero Gravity]

Im down to 5 qts of Mobil 2T







.

I have ran more than 5 gallons of the Mobil MX2T. Very little build up on the power vales on a 200 KTM motorcycle. With Mobil being a low smoke oil and cheaper than Amzoil Dominator. There is no question for me.
ZG

 

[parrisw]

The lack of a listed stabilizer is not a reason for rejecting Amsoil. I have had mix sitting for long periods-like over several months-with no adverse effects what so ever. I have had it sit in the tank of weed eaters etc. for an entire winter and it starts and runs great. I don't have that problem with my chainsaws as I use them heavily now virtually year around.

I will say again, I have used 100:1 to cut lots of wood. I now run it 50:1 just because I choose to. The 100:1 is perfectly safe. If you don't want to run it-THEN DON'T-but don't bad mouth a great product if you are not willing to try it.

I have been a lifetime dealer with Amsoil for many years and I refuse to run petroleum oil in any engine that I own. It just plain does not hold a candle to synthetic. Why do you think that they can only use synthetic oil in turbine engines? They burn up with petroleum. Helicopters etc. will crash. The new corvette engines use ONLY synthetic or they will burn up. I could go on for hours with sythetic stories of success.

The bottom line is that Saber 100:1 is a good reliable product. If you want to use it-go for it. If you don't that is perfectly fine and it is your choice, but don't bad mouth a good product without solid proof that it caused a failure.

:agree2:

Ya, badmouthing something you've never tried is just plain silly!!!

 

[eyolf]

Apparently our Canadian friends have a warehouse full of Mobil 2T:

http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/Lubes/PDS/IOCAENPVLMOMobil_1_MX2T.asp