Nik's Poulan Thread

[67 Mustang]

Just got this Dayton 2Z462A off Ebay today, I know it is a Poulan of some sort. Acres references the saw to the Poulan/Wright 141A and then references the 141A to the Poulan 361, but you can not always trust the info found there either. Looks to be 4 cubes, auto oiler and has a decomp.

Model Profile: 2Z462A

If you look up at the top of the Acres info, you'll see that the displacement is listed as "4.0", so this is a 400 or 401. Another clue is that the bar length as listed on the decal is 21". If it was a 2Z461 (361) it would be 17".

 

[nick 55]

PM sent.

I replied back, hopefully we can make a deal!

Nick

 

[Modifiedmark]

When it comes to rebadged saws you have to remember that sometimes there is not a direct match.

Sometimes features from different versions are combined to suit a particular retailer.

That said I would call that Dayton essentialy a Poulan 400A.

 

[tbone75]

Gregg, great videos! Man, you have done that before, very smooth and precise. And I just loved the purr of the 5200 in the cut. Who said 30 year old saws are no good?
Also Gregg, please, no more pics of those 4000's - I have never seen one in the flesh down here and when I see (and hear) yours it brings on my gout. Got another 3400 yesterday but it doesn't ease the pain.

Hey, those trees you have over there are solid right to the bone. The ones we get here always have a pipe up the middle. My son is cutting this ironbark last year in the fires. He used a T cut to direct it away from a track. Hollow trees make great chimneys!

Al.

Great pics!

 

[paulyb21]

Speaking of re-badges: Sachs Dolmar version of an s25da I think

I was looking high and low for a muffler for my Little red Craftsman S25DA rebadge. Finally found one. I found this lot of four for $30.

Crastman 42cc; Skilsaw 1631 type3: Sachs Dolmar HD 104; Mac 110 yes I will keep it!

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The SD Heavy Duty 104 is too good to be just a donor but will temporarily use the muffler on the Craftsman

until I get the SD 104 running. The 104 Has anti vibe handle Solid state, Chainbrake (needs some work, does not lock in the run position), compression and a great piston and cylinder as far as I can tell, and spark. The guy had all the bolts chains bars included, never seen boxes so complete. Have not even pulled the muffler on the Grey Craftsman 42cc, the one that lured me into this little deal. All have good feeling compression on the pull rope though.
Lots of projects now til spring. Now to find another s25da muffler..
Paulyb

 

[Nardoo]

Nice haul for $30.00!
That Skilsaw (PM 340) is a real nice saw. I have one on the shelf and because I like the styling so much. Looks like you got the metal tank - maybe have the PM jug with the extra port.
Rep sent.
Al.

 

[paulyb21]

Hi Al
Yes all metal tank on the 1631. I was giddy when i saw this saw included in the box. There are some pics somewhere in all the pages of AS with a real beauty Pm340 that I can't find yet (dialup). I will post in the main area later in the week when I get through cleaning the "poulans" and seeing what I have. It was a big bonus to me. I have no info on that brand, yet. Love finding different stuff. Especially when it was only 30 bucks and less than a 30 mile drive.And all I wanted was a muffler...and a 42cc lightweight Poulan. I tried dads and it cut extremely well in some 10" oak and 12-14" pine
Thanks Paul

 

[67 Mustang]

Hi Al
Yes all metal tank on the 1631. I was giddy when i saw this saw included in the box. There are some pics somewhere in all the pages of AS with a real beauty Pm340 that I can't find yet (dialup). I will post in the main area later in the week when I get through cleaning the "poulans" and seeing what I have. It was a big bonus to me. I have no info on that brand, yet. Love finding different stuff. Especially when it was only 30 bucks and less than a 30 mile drive.And all I wanted was a muffler...and a 42cc lightweight Poulan. I tried dads and it cut extremely well in some 10" oak and 12-14" pine
Thanks Paul

Very nice haul there, Paulby! Especially like the S-D 104. Haven't seen one of those before. That model isn't listed on Acres either.

 

[barneyrb]

I was looking high and low for a muffler for my Little red Craftsman S25DA rebadge. Finally found one. I found this lot of four for $30.

Crastman 42cc; Skilsaw 1631 type3: Sachs Dolmar HD 104; Mac 110 yes I will keep it!

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The SD Heavy Duty 104 is too good to be just a donor but will temporarily use the muffler on the Craftsman

until I get the SD 104 running. The 104 Has anti vibe handle Solid state, Chainbrake (needs some work, does not lock in the run position), compression and a great piston and cylinder as far as I can tell, and spark. The guy had all the bolts chains bars included, never seen boxes so complete. Have not even pulled the muffler on the Grey Craftsman 42cc, the one that lured me into this little deal. All have good feeling compression on the pull rope though.
Lots of projects now til spring. Now to find another s25da muffler..
Paulyb

I WANT THE MINI-MAC, they make good targets.......

 

[Modifiedmark]

I was looking high and low for a muffler for my Little red Craftsman S25DA rebadge. Finally found one. I found this lot of four for $30.

Crastman 42cc; Skilsaw 1631 type3: Sachs Dolmar HD 104; Mac 110 yes I will keep it!



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The SD Heavy Duty 104 is too good to be just a donor but will temporarily use the muffler on the Craftsman



until I get the SD 104 running. The 104 Has anti vibe handle Solid state, Chainbrake (needs some work, does not lock in the run position), compression and a great piston and cylinder as far as I can tell, and spark. The guy had all the bolts chains bars included, never seen boxes so complete. Have not even pulled the muffler on the Grey Craftsman 42cc, the one that lured me into this little deal. All have good feeling compression on the pull rope though.
Lots of projects now til spring. Now to find another s25da muffler..
Paulyb

Great day you had!

Nice finds and of course I'm giddy over your find of the SD104. Not alot of info out there on the Poulan/Sachs Dolmar partnership.

The only info I can find on the 104 is in a Poulan model date control sheet and its listed under the brand Hobby, not Sachs Dolmar, but we know that the other rebadged Poulans Dolmar had were called Hobby. It shows production started in 1979. Dolmar brought out there own top handle 105 in 1980 so that SD 104 might have been a one year and done for them. Sachs Dolmars 105 while not a bad saw at all does not seem like a upgrade anywhere compared to your SD104.

You saw of course is based on the 2.3CI Poulan S25CVA but like I said yesterday it is not a exact match with most of its Poulan counter parts.

Post a picture of that muffler style that was on it and I'll see what I can scrape up for you, that saw deserves a second chance.

I myself might have another relabeled Poulan 25DA on the way also. This time in Allis Chalmers orange.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Anyone seen Moparman Paul around here lately? I sure miss his experianced input.

 

[Modifiedmark]

I WANT THE MINI-MAC, they make good targets.......

Yeah, I agree, there easy to toss up in the air. PULL!!!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[rms61moparman]

Yeah, I agree, there easy to toss up in the air. PULL!!!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

About like the Super 2 I just fixed for a buddy at work last week???
At least the Homelites had a little power when they were running.
How did Mac and Homelite ever sell any of those little toys at the same time Poulan was making the S25s and Micros????
I geuss P.T. Barnum was right!


Mike

 

[Chris J.]

I was looking high and low for a muffler for my Little red Craftsman S25DA rebadge. Finally found one. I found this lot of four for $30.

Crastman 42cc; Skilsaw 1631 type3: Sachs Dolmar HD 104; Mac 110 yes I will keep it!
...
Paulyb

Nice haul for $30.00, especially the rare SD HD 104.

And now the obligatory you SUCK :jester:.

 

[stubnail67]

very nice haul!!!

I was looking high and low for a muffler for my Little red Craftsman S25DA rebadge. Finally found one. I found this lot of four for $30.

Crastman 42cc; Skilsaw 1631 type3: Sachs Dolmar HD 104; Mac 110 yes I will keep it!

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View attachment 205888

The SD Heavy Duty 104 is too good to be just a donor but will temporarily use the muffler on the Craftsman

until I get the SD 104 running. The 104 Has anti vibe handle Solid state, Chainbrake (needs some work, does not lock in the run position), compression and a great piston and cylinder as far as I can tell, and spark. The guy had all the bolts chains bars included, never seen boxes so complete. Have not even pulled the muffler on the Grey Craftsman 42cc, the one that lured me into this little deal. All have good feeling compression on the pull rope though.
Lots of projects now til spring. Now to find another s25da muffler..
Paulyb

thats very cool!!! great haul man!!!!

 

[Delano1981]

My Poulan 4000 (Video)

Made a video of my Poulan 4000 running. I will do final carb adjustments when I get the idle screw installed.


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I can't get the embed to work.

Here's a link to video: http://youtu.be/bX3DHwGOwac

 

[zogger]

3400 auto oiler

OK, brand new diaphragm, everything clean. Manual oiler works fine, nice good squirt with every pump and it feels good. There's that cotter pin vent thing, it's there, is that all there is to it? Now on the assembly, that button and spring and pintle. I assume pintle means the little rod that goes into the housing. Is that connected to anything inside? It just pulled out easy. It didn't move at first and a little push freed it up and I shot some carb spray in there for grins. Any other little valves someplace I need to find and replace or repair if possible? Something inside that black plastic assembly, that looks like you can't take it apart? I had it all together again and ran it this afternoon with the cover off and nada. Manual fine, auto, nothing, not a drip. The pickup screen looks fine, (tank was cleaned out with some mix, not much dirt really, pretty clean actually). The oiler outlet to the body looks fine and it pumps manually of course. gaskets look fine. Supposedly you need some foam for the oiler vent, those are the two holes in the side of the assembly? There was nothing there and it was fulla crud originally. I stuck one piece of foam on the manual rod channel, I need another piece under the plate opposite those two holes? Either way without that foam it wasn't dirty so should have seen some oil.

Did I screw up and maybe should have mounted the bar and revved it high to get it going better, like some sort of "prime"? Had the clutch cover off so nothing past an idle except for like one second starting it.

I have looked at several really rank IPL schematics, none really show in enough detail. Bad copies of copies of copies of worse originals...crosseyed now....

TIA oh lime green gurus! I know there's one teeny thing I am most likely missing, but unless it is inside that black box I don't know what it is.

 

[stubnail67]

cool video!

Made a video of my Poulan 4000 running. I will do final carb adjustments when I get the idle screw installed.


<iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bX3DHwGOwac" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I can't get the embed to work.

Here's a link to video: Poulan_4000_Chainsaw.wmv - YouTube

great video you may want to point the tip ofg the bar else where then close to the nice painted wall of your house cause it can sling oil a ways LOL!!!

 

[67 Mustang]

OK, brand new diaphragm, everything clean. Manual oiler works fine, nice good squirt with every pump and it feels good. There's that cotter pin vent thing, it's there, is that all there is to it? Now on the assembly, that button and spring and pintle. I assume pintle means the little rod that goes into the housing. Is that connected to anything inside? It just pulled out easy. It didn't move at first and a little push freed it up and I shot some carb spray in there for grins. Any other little valves someplace I need to find and replace or repair if possible? Something inside that black plastic assembly, that looks like you can't take it apart? I had it all together again and ran it this afternoon with the cover off and nada. Manual fine, auto, nothing, not a drip. The pickup screen looks fine, (tank was cleaned out with some mix, not much dirt really, pretty clean actually). The oiler outlet to the body looks fine and it pumps manually of course. gaskets look fine. Supposedly you need some foam for the oiler vent, those are the two holes in the side of the assembly? There was nothing there and it was fulla crud originally. I stuck one piece of foam on the manual rod channel, I need another piece under the plate opposite those two holes? Either way without that foam it wasn't dirty so should have seen some oil.

Did I screw up and maybe should have mounted the bar and revved it high to get it going better, like some sort of "prime"? Had the clutch cover off so nothing past an idle except for like one second starting it.

I have looked at several really rank IPL schematics, none really show in enough detail. Bad copies of copies of copies of worse originals...crosseyed now....

TIA oh lime green gurus! I know there's one teeny thing I am most likely missing, but unless it is inside that black box I don't know what it is.

Here's a better looking IPL for you, Z.

Poulan 3400 IPL

 

[StinkyBunny]

Is a Baird Poulan model 47 worth picking up?