New Dolmar 60cc strato saw, PS 6100

[cambl]

No, that's a tracking beacon so the EPA knows where you are.

Ok good, we need to be compliant. I didn't think Dolmar would put a useless primer on a "pro" saw.

 

[WetGunPowder]

MSRP in the US is under $600.00 with 20"b&c. Should fit well in the DOLMAR line-up between the 5105 and the 6400. We are expecting them in June-which is about the time the snow will finally melt around here!:bang:

 

[SawTroll]

Is that a primer bulb on the fuel tank?

It does have one, but it isn't on the tank....

 

[mikefunaro]

It does have one, but it isn't on the tank....

If you look really closely it looks like it's on the part of the case that hangs down over the tank so to speak. To me that still looks vulnerable and if the saw has to have one I'd much rather it be recessed into the saw a bit.

I know people are saying they make things easier to start, and they probably do, but my 372 and 576 dont have them and they start up just fine. Hopefully the current bulbs are of a material that's ethanol resistant and will last a LONG time. I have not had any bulb failures on any recent equipment, but my equipment doesn't get all that much hours. Not sure if time or use is a bigger factor affecting bulb life.

What I will say I hope this dolmar has (and this is a preference thing--I respect the fact that people will disagree) is increased throttle travel. The 510 and 7900s I had were great saws but the one sticking point I always had was the fact that the trottle trigger doesn't really go down that far. For short bouts of cutting it was fine but what ends up happening is my pointer and possibly middle finger sit on the handle in a different position that the rest of my hand for an extended period of time. I probably tend to grip things tighter than I need to anyway, but after a days worth of cutting those fingers start to bother me.

 

[SawTroll]

If you look really closely it looks like it's on the part of the case that hangs down over the tank so to speak. To me that still looks vulnerable and if the saw has to have one I'd much rather it be recessed into the saw a bit.
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Yep, on the "overhang", to the right and up from the rear handle.

 

[SawTroll]

I see where TK scaled a dry 562 at 12.8 lbs. So we are at 12.8 vs 13.2 on the two saws. The 13.2/6.0kg should be the out of the box weight.

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"Should be" are the right words, we don't know if it is true yet - btw, that is the same as the true weight of the MS362 (according to KWF)......

 

[7sleeper]

I can add the data from another thread

This is a quote from a german thread comparing the data of the 6100, 362 and 562.

vollgetankt gibts keine angaben vom hersteller: hab mir aber eben die arbeit gemacht und vollgetankt mit 45cm Schiene und Kette gewogen:
= 8,2kg auf der anzeige der personenwage. => fully fueled fuel and chain oil with 18inch bar & chain = 8.2kg ~ 18.077lbs
Vergleichszahlen:
.................. Dolmar PS 6100............. Stihl 362 ....................Hus 562XP
torque: .......3,8Nm/6500...................3,6Nm/6500.................3,5Nm/7750
power......... 3,4kW ..........................3,4 kW.........................3,5KW
rpm.............13000/min.....................14000/min ..................14000/min
Gas capacity 0,75l........................... 0,6l ............................ 0,62l
running time. ca 30 min ....................ca 20min .....................ca 21 min ( dies sind KWF-Messungen)
length........... 435mm ......................445mm.........................445mm
width.............202mm(Easy-Start)......195mm........................190mm
height............227mm.......................220mm.........................220mm
weight............6kg ............................6kg ...........................5,8kg
ccm...............61ccm³........................59ccm³........................59,8ccm³
price in Germany..789,-€...................1079,-€........................1159,-€

This is just a comparison of the numbers. But I believe that the price seems right.

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[cambl]

ps-6100

Looks like distributors have these on order, due in July.

Has anyone here in the States been able to run a pre-production model and take a look inside at the carb/intake and exhaust systems?

 

[7sleeper]

Looks like distributors have these on order, due in July.

Has anyone here in the States been able to run a pre-production model and take a look inside at the carb/intake and exhaust systems?

See the above link from me. Very good photos.

The first responses from users are very positiv. I'll just quote one from a german thread. The link is here 5105, 6100 oder 6400 • Motorsägen-Portal

Halllo!
Nach mittlerweile so ca. 40 Tankfüllungen schätze ich mal gibt es von meiner Seite her schon ein paar Erfahrungswerte und das wären folgende:
ich hoffe Du bist genauso zufrieden mit der Dolmar 6100 wie wir, einfach geil die Säge. Dreht wie die sprichwörtliche Sau und braucht relativ wenig Treibstoff. Ich habe meine Sägen mit 45cm 3/8 VM geordert. Das ist für mich die Allround Säge schlechthin, ich habe schon Eichen und Buchen mit einem BHD von 80cm gefällt und das funktioniert super.
Wir fangen nächste Woche einen Tannen Starkholz Kahlschlag an und ich schätze da werden die 7900er in der Alubox stehen bleiben.
Von der Leistung her einer Dolmar 6400 sicher überlegen, ebenso vom Händling her.
ich würde sie in die Kategorie Husky 357, 560 bzw. 562 einordnen nur eben günstiger Preis bei hoher Qualität.

A quick translate:

After about 40 tanks of fuel now I guess it's time for some experience and that would be the following:
I hope you're as happy with the Dolmar 6100 as we are, just cool the saw. Spinning like the proverbial sow and requires relatively little fuel. I ordered my saws with 45cm 3/8 VM. That to me is the quintessential all-round saw, I already felled oak and beech trees with a DBH(Diameter at breast height) of 80cm and it works great.
We start next week on a fir heavy timber clearcutting and I guess the 7900 will remain in the aluminum box.
Certainly exceeds a Dolmar 6400 performance-wise, equaly from her handling.
I would classify them in the category Husky 357, 560 and 562, but just lower price with high quality.

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[huskydude]

so in Europe, is it standard fare to include a carburetor tuning screwdriver?

 

[7sleeper]

so in Europe, is it standard fare to include a carburetor tuning screwdriver?

On all my Dolmar and Stihl chainsaws it has been included. Some of the smaller stuff has d or dd or splined. But the regular stuff it's included. Even my Makita electric chainsaw had the Dolmar set included! :hmm3grin2orange: But I think that that was a mistake by the store because the one I gave my BIL as a present didn't have one included. I was thinking about complaining but maybe I would have had to give mine back.

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[huskydude]

that's great. Our EPA is a joke.

 

[exSW]

My 420 came with a screwdriver along with the squench and a "L" handle torx.Please more info on the 6100 hopefully the EPA doesn't cut its nut$ off.

 

[7sleeper]

My 420 came with a screwdriver along with the squench and a "L" handle torx.Please more info on the 6100 hopefully the EPA doesn't cut its nut$ off.

Don't think they can. It is a strato saw, just like a bunch of other pro saws out there.

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[tdi-rick]

Certainly exceeds a Dolmar 6400 performance-wise, equaly from her handling.
I would classify them in the category Husky 357, 560 and 562, but just lower price with high quality.[/I]

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This is an excellent comparison/comment as those that have used a 6400 are generally impressed by the power/torque from the cc's, weight and handling of the chassis notwithstanding.

I know I was.

 

[cambl]

Has anyone been able to find a parts breakdown yet? All my searches turned up nothing.

 

[WetGunPowder]

They're HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!

 

[Hedgerow]

They're HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!

Well put one together and run it!!
How's it compare to the 2260??
:msp_wink:

 

[Steve NW WI]

They're HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!

I was gonna stop in for something else, I forget what now. Be there in a bit...

 

[Franny K]

Has anyone been able to find a parts breakdown yet? All my searches turned up nothing.

They don't seem to be hiding them go to the bottom of the product description page I put here and follow the link.
DOLMAR - PS-6100

this model doesn't seem loaded into the on line ordering system yet.