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jakewells said:
im been liking the 590 thus far last week i replaced the worn sprocket with a rim drive set up
the echo dealer has a blown 620 and he is letting me get the coil,handle bar and few other odds and ends from it
im going to look into a 490 it might land on my saw shelf in the next few months.

YOU GUYS have not said one word about the new echo cs 360 coming out May 2015 in the US all i know about the saw its 36cc and weights around 8 lbs
and will be priced somewhere in the 400.00 range.
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I will have some coming the second they become available. Will post pics and a review as soon as I have one!
 
Although my signature does not reflect this, I have sold every Stihl I own and converted to Echo except for an 044 I may need for big dead live oak. I bought a Timberwolf last year and liked it so well, I bought and rebuilt a 620P. I am currently rebuilding a 600P. If I didnt have 2 Echo 4600s (45cc), I would give the new 490 a try. I like the way the Echo's are built, the ease of working on them and the technical support of the manuals on their website. The slight extra weight,in my mind, usually equates to more longevity. I guess I am a closet convert. If you stir the pot long enough, the cream rises to the top.
 
mountainlake said:
The CS550p has to be Echo's worst model in quite a while. Steve
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Looks like Echo is testing the waters for Strato Charging with the 550p.Strato may be ok but I just don't care much for it.I almost took the Plunge and bought the 550p just to try it out but remembered i done the same with a MS441.I'm just getting along with the Redmax GZ4000/craftsman clone.Great saws but are more or less suited for large limbs and not small branches.Just can't handle hitting the trigger and getting the Wide open (And Useless) screaming all of a sudden.I have a Brand new GZ4000 that I dropped the base gasket out of to gain some Torque and also wound the strato charging Butterfly spring one more turn around the shaft to see if i could get a little more tension.Anyway put everything back together and can't get it to run.I've tore it apart 3 different times and still the same thing.Start and die.Finally after racking my brain since august i thing i may have flipped the intake gasket and shut off the Impulse hole to the carb.:rolleyes:
 
jughead500 said:
Looks like Echo is testing the waters for Strato Charging with the 550p.Strato may be ok but I just don't care much for it.I almost took the Plunge and bought the 550p just to try it out but remembered i done the same with a MS441.I'm just getting along with the Redmax GZ4000/craftsman clone.Great saws but are more or less suited for large limbs and not small branches.Just can't handle hitting the trigger and getting the Wide open (And Useless) screaming all of a sudden.I have a Brand new GZ4000 that I dropped the base gasket out of to gain some Torque and also wound the strato charging Butterfly spring one more turn around the shaft to see if i could get a little more tension.Anyway put everything back together and can't get it to run.I've tore it apart 3 different times and still the same thing.Start and die.Finaly after racking my brain sice august i thing i may have flipped the intake gasket and shut off the Impulse hole to the carb.:rolleyes:
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Word. Im not a strato fan either.
 
WSE said:
Tell your guys to sharpen their chain and quit yanking on the saw. I've sold several 310s and they have been flawless.
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I know why they broke...That wasn't the point. I've sold 2 and had 2 come back within weeks with a broken handle...one was the first week. In contrast I have sold close to 100 PS-32 with not one issue....had hundreds of poulans/craftsmans/husky saws of similar price point or less come through the shop without a single one having a broken handle. They run good especially after a mm but that handle breaking so easily gives me pause in recommending them anymore.
 
interesting--

i would love to have one-- except i just got through tuning up a cs-450P --and after a MM and a carb tune it is an impressive "little" saw --the thing thinks it is a "little" 372XP--

someone said cuts like a light-saber-???-LOL
 
So back go this saw...I've got a CS-450p right now. Runs good, but I had pulled the muffler a while back thinking I was going to do a MM and see that the piston has some scoring. Decided I'd just leave as is, and put it back. I bought this saw used about a year ago, had been thinking I actually wanted a 500, but couldn't find a used one at the time, and didn't want to drop new money to see if I'd really like it.

Fast forward, some wood cutting, fence row cleaning, and TSI work behind me, I really like the saw, and was thinking strongly about my options. I have a couple bigger saws, a pair of Mac 610s that do all the larger work I need, but they're on the heavy, slow end of things for me, but seem to run forever.

Option 1...buy another 450, run my old one till it dies, and have a parts saw for things like the clutch cover, etc.

Option 2...buy the CS-500p like I wanted in the first place, and either keep this 450 til it dies, or sell it and get probably what I paid for it back.

Option 3...buy this new 490, and give it a run.

Other than having more plastic, is there anything performance wise that this 490 seems to be lacking over the 500?

Related question...if I go back to a 450, is there any difference now be wee the straight model and the P? Earlier, it seemed like the P had a better bar/chain, and a rim sprocket, but if I'm reading the website right, I don't see that difference now. Maybe a glitch in the info on the site, but they look the same.

Also been eyeballing a CS-670 or 6700, don't remember which, not too far from me on CL...thinking I may sell my 610s, and move that way. Looks like more saw for equal to less weight. How were/are those saws regarded for performance and durability?
 
nwmo_aggie said:
So back go this saw...I've got a CS-450p right now. Runs good, but I had pulled the muffler a while back thinking I was going to do a MM and see that the piston has some scoring. Decided I'd just leave as is, and put it back. I bought this saw used about a year ago, had been thinking I actually wanted a 500, but couldn't find a used one at the time, and didn't want to drop new money to see if I'd really like it.

Fast forward, some wood cutting, fence row cleaning, and TSI work behind me, I really like the saw, and was thinking strongly about my options. I have a couple bigger saws, a pair of Mac 610s that do all the larger work I need, but they're on the heavy, slow end of things for me, but seem to run forever.

Option 1...buy another 450, run my old one till it dies, and have a parts saw for things like the clutch cover, etc.

Option 2...buy the CS-500p like I wanted in the first place, and either keep this 450 til it dies, or sell it and get probably what I paid for it back.

Option 3...buy this new 490, and give it a run.

Other than having more plastic, is there anything performance wise that this 490 seems to be lacking over the 500?

Related question...if I go back to a 450, is there any difference now be wee the straight model and the P? Earlier, it seemed like the P had a better bar/chain, and a rim sprocket, but if I'm reading the website right, I don't see that difference now. Maybe a glitch in the info on the site, but they look the same.

Also been eyeballing a CS-670 or 6700, don't remember which, not too far from me on CL...thinking I may sell my 610s, and move that way. Looks like more saw for equal to less weight. How were/are those saws regarded for performance and durability?
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A MM'd 450 will outcut a 490/500. Even if the 490/500 is MM'd as well. Stock for stock though the 490/500 is gutsier because the muffler is not nearly as choked up as the 450. I personally like the feel of the 450 better as well which is why I own one personally. I have sold dozens of 450s and they have been bulletproof for my customers. My personal opinion is to stick with your old or a new 450. But that's just me. A lot of guys love their 500s. The only difference between the P and not P 450 models was the bar and chain. As far as I can tell all differences between the 490 and 500 are external. I do have my first 490 coming in on an order this afternoon. I will try to get some pics up for you guys!
 
I would want to find out why my 450 is scoring the piston rather than buy a new one. I suspect it it set too lean from the factory and no-one has checked it.
 
cedarshark said:
I would want to find out why my 450 is scoring the piston rather than buy a new one. I suspect it it set too lean from the factory and no-one has checked it.
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Yes that is very likely.
 

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