Husqvarna 550xp vs echo cs490
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Yes, I agree to a point and not just in regards to the echos, but homeowner/ranch saws and other saws unknow by the majority.
I also like that sawtroll does a great job of gathering info, the truth if it's reported properly. I have learned so much about different models and options throughout the yrs from him and he probably has not ran most of them. Specs are a great "indicator" of what the company or some "independent studies" that are done by a company usually to reflect the desired #'s the parent company(many times they own the company who does the independent study, example; pesticide companies own the research facilities that are studying why the honey bees are dying we already know why
) wants to hit the market. We know in the last few yrs they have changed the ratings on many pieces of power equipment to cc's rather than hp. We also know that the good companies have typically underrated there products. A great example is logsplitters: a 22ton huskee splitter will do me just fine, but a timberwolf with the same rating will smoke it, because one is a more quality company and is going after long term sales not pleasing the masses with inflated #'s or the investors also with inflated #'s. I personally can't justify the cost per the amount of use, unless someone has a nice t-5 for 2k.
The other side of the coin are the real life experiences of the guys who have used them. This is where I typically go to get advice on my purchases(after looking at the specs) and I don't buy the "beta version" because I can not get any real longer term experience advice about them. Thats why I have the 2014 husky 550xp, I want to reduce the possibility of buying a bad new version.
I have a 575xp I can sell, but would you want that knowing the history many have had(perfect example because many have had great experiences with them and the newer 575xp. Knowing what I know and looking at the spec sheets which would I buy a 365 or a 575.
Experience makes a spec sheet look awful many times. We really need both to make a great decision because people have a hard time being non partial in most every situation. If they have a great experience they could care less if you had a bad one, it was your own fault and not the product lol. The other side says it's a piece of crap you must have gotten the only good one ever produced.
I try to wade through all these opinions/specs, and make the best possible decision I can. I feel a little due diligence goes a long way. I have google searched so many saws and found out I should not buy them, not because they were a bad saw, but why buy an ms290 that is the smallest of that family of saws when I could get a 310 or 390 used for the same price. The funny thing is the ms290 would have been just fine, but I am from Michigan and have tim taylor ittis (TTI). It's in the same family of illness as CAD, it's just the fully blown version that effects all aspects of life and not just the common (to AS members
) desire to buy chainsaws.
Thanks to everyone who has helped in my many saw buying decisions over the yrs and lets all be open minded as companies change and new companies will be up and coming through the many yrs of our lives.
I will continue to do what I personally can to add to the beneficial side of this forum and be as unbiased as a person can.
I also like that sawtroll does a great job of gathering info, the truth if it's reported properly. I have learned so much about different models and options throughout the yrs from him and he probably has not ran most of them. Specs are a great "indicator" of what the company or some "independent studies" that are done by a company usually to reflect the desired #'s the parent company(many times they own the company who does the independent study, example; pesticide companies own the research facilities that are studying why the honey bees are dying we already know why
) wants to hit the market. We know in the last few yrs they have changed the ratings on many pieces of power equipment to cc's rather than hp. We also know that the good companies have typically underrated there products. A great example is logsplitters: a 22ton huskee splitter will do me just fine, but a timberwolf with the same rating will smoke it, because one is a more quality company and is going after long term sales not pleasing the masses with inflated #'s or the investors also with inflated #'s. I personally can't justify the cost per the amount of use, unless someone has a nice t-5 for 2k. The other side of the coin are the real life experiences of the guys who have used them. This is where I typically go to get advice on my purchases(after looking at the specs) and I don't buy the "beta version" because I can not get any real longer term experience advice about them. Thats why I have the 2014 husky 550xp, I want to reduce the possibility of buying a bad new version.
I have a 575xp I can sell, but would you want that knowing the history many have had(perfect example because many have had great experiences with them and the newer 575xp. Knowing what I know and looking at the spec sheets which would I buy a 365 or a 575.
Experience makes a spec sheet look awful many times. We really need both to make a great decision because people have a hard time being non partial in most every situation. If they have a great experience they could care less if you had a bad one, it was your own fault and not the product lol. The other side says it's a piece of crap you must have gotten the only good one ever produced.
I try to wade through all these opinions/specs, and make the best possible decision I can. I feel a little due diligence goes a long way. I have google searched so many saws and found out I should not buy them, not because they were a bad saw, but why buy an ms290 that is the smallest of that family of saws when I could get a 310 or 390 used for the same price. The funny thing is the ms290 would have been just fine, but I am from Michigan and have tim taylor ittis (TTI). It's in the same family of illness as CAD, it's just the fully blown version that effects all aspects of life and not just the common (to AS members
) desire to buy chainsaws.Thanks to everyone who has helped in my many saw buying decisions over the yrs and lets all be open minded as companies change and new companies will be up and coming through the many yrs of our lives.
I will continue to do what I personally can to add to the beneficial side of this forum and be as unbiased as a person can.
Lol, common sense just ain't so common these days.
Plenty of sheeple just following the masses.
You should have been here back when I joined in 2009. The echo bashing was 10 times worse. It was down right nasty. ST is really the only consistent basher left and he has never even seen an echo saw.
CapitaineHaddoc
European Westcoaster
That's another problem, there's a lot of Echo fanboys who refuse any critic.
If I say "Echo's are junk", I agree that's bashing.
But if I say "Echo's are good and reliable saws, but they aren't the best saws on the market", there's a few fanboys who will call this "bashing" too.
There's a vid on you tube with a CS500es cutting dead even with a Stihl MS261, that Echo must have big HP if we are to believe published HP numbers. Steve
Of course an echo would keep up with a 261. That's not exactly a blazing fast saw. Now put it up against my 550xp and we'll see a different outcome.
Regardless how fast your 550xp (3.75 hp) might cut, Stihl has the MS261 rated a 4 hp and the Echo CS500es is rated at 2.91 hp and yet they cut dead even. So much for published HP numbers Steve
sunfish
Fish Head
I wonder if the OP got a saw?
I'm sure he got more than he bargained for, but he's been around long enough to have heard it all before. To be honest it's one of the reasons I held out for yrs before joining. Then I found a sale on another site and bought a bunch of big boy pants. I just wear the til they get dirty and throw them out
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SawTroll
Information Collector
There are so many other factor involved that a random video comparison doesn't really tell anything. You can basically "prove" whatever you want with such a video.
SawTroll
Information Collector
Not true - but they don't tell the full story.
SawTroll please watch this video and them lets talk about applicability of HP #s...
In all seriousness I know you are knowledgeable but I think it just depends what you want at what price point... at the end of the day we all cut wood. (Oh wait, this in AS where most saws sit on shelves til death) :shrug:
Is it really an xp saw?
I thought it was just a 555, when did it pick up the xp designation.
You know what I think you are right... I guess I call it that with the 562 XP stuff on it but as you stated it IS NOT an XP, just missing the crank stuffer to be a 560XP... in other lands. Good call chipper1.
Ok, wouldn't be the first time I missed something new on the market. I haven't been in a saw shop in a couple months, and I like it that way.
Just applying some sawtroll specs/info to the situation. They call me a troll also because we live "under the Mackinac bridge" in the lower peninsula.
Nice video also, though that thing was ripping pretty hard for a 555 lol. Seems to have a lot of grunt (torque).
Just applying some sawtroll specs/info to the situation. They call me a troll also because we live "under the Mackinac bridge" in the lower peninsula.
Nice video also, though that thing was ripping pretty hard for a 555 lol. Seems to have a lot of grunt (torque).
