aw I miss the 15 minutes of hacking at the face...
nicely done sir, if a touch sloppy...
nicely done sir, if a touch sloppy...
Falling pics 11/25/09
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HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
That's what she said.........
I fell 15 trees today, and didn't hit the far corner once. That video very well represents the entire day.
Skeans
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Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
Not too bad Doc!
treeslayer2003
Addicted to ArboristSite
thanks Bob, that does make it simpler now. i have been having trouble with this site lately, its working now but very slow. was starting to think i was bunned lol.
Tree Feller
J &J Tree Service
Here's the ones of Cody's I had saved.
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So correct me if i'm wrong but this would pull the tree to the right in this picture? So it swings towards the sis-wheel right??
yup
Tree Feller
J &J Tree Service
So does this only work on trees where the fibers hold really well? Looks like if they broke pre-mature you could loose the swing effect?
HuskStihl
Chairin'em for the sound
Uh-huh
Also, if you don't make your cuts exactly right the tree can take off on you.
The siz is a good trick to know but I'd do my practicing on trees where it doesn't matter if they go sideways.
Or, y'know, clobber a charcoal grill. (I shouda maybe known better but it looked so easy)
Tree Feller
J &J Tree Service
So it's designed to swing it a complete 90 degrees? Meaning the tree should end up swung around as if the sis wheel notch was the face cut? Or does is swing it half of that distance? This all in a perfect world of course!
bitzer
******** Timber Expert
The siz is a piece out of the face. Depends on the tree and what you're doing with the far corner. It can do more than 90. The goal is to expose the fibers on the pull side so they stay intact longer pulling the top around. Some species hold better than others. Top weight and lean need to be considered. Lots of factors.
bitzer
******** Timber Expert
Jon- i don't recall where you asked about Clint, but he is doing well. I talked to him about six weeks ago. He was cutting for a couple of companies at the time and gettin way ahead of the skidder. Hes got a new 661 he likes. Other than that we talked about swinging trees.
Nice video by the way. You just need to handle the saw now like its your ***** and you've got it!
Nice video by the way. You just need to handle the saw now like its your ***** and you've got it!
Metals406
Granfodder Runningsaw
It's less of a 'swing' (that's what swing dutch's are for) & more of a 'hold-fast'.
Like Bob said, a way to control the chaos that is gravity pulling the tree down.
Apparently the deer hunters of the midwest think barberchair is a useful trick: http://extremedeerhabitat.com/habitat-blog/
Tree Feller
J &J Tree Service
I have seen this before. They claim they do it to keep the log off the ground so the deer has cover. Looks like a good way to get your head took off. I can see cuttling down small trees for this but some of those would make timber in the future. And great firewood.
Ideally you make you face cut in the direction you intend to fall the tree, the siz is to help the fibers on the pull side do their job.
Ultimately the face cut governs the direction of fall. The rest is manipulation of hold wood.
That being said a siz can and will pull the tree beyond where you intended it to fall, if it is holding really good, on the other hand it can come loose and fall short of planned.
A thing with the siz that may or may not help and I'm not sure this will come out right...
The vertical cut should follow the gun cut of the face, doing your best to not leave any nicks or gouges in the face of the siz, taking your time with the sloping portion and not gouging helps as well.
Any nick or gouge in the vertical portion gives it a place to break prematurely.
The vertical cut should follow the gun cut of the face, doing your best to not leave any nicks or gouges in the face of the siz, taking your time with the sloping portion and not gouging helps as well.
Any nick or gouge in the vertical portion gives it a place to break prematurely.
