Yep it's really hard to tell about this 90.....ten minutes of parts swapping and it would look all together different. Actually on close inspection the front of the saw, including the muffler as Lee pointed out, shows only dirt...the paint is very good and the other common wear point, the trigger handle has fairly good paint too. I don't think this saw has been used a lot......by a lot I mean commercially....I would wager it's no where near as rough as it looks. I bought my real nice 80 off ebay it was rough looking, broken trigger handle hanging off it, dirty, rusty B&C.......I bought it for parts for $65 delivered.....but...I had it purring like a kitten in 2.5 hrs.....carb kit/fuel line, handle off a 49sp, a decent bar and thorough cleaning. It pulls 238 lbs of comp, runs like top and has never been apart.....didn't even have to touch the points. This could well be a diamond in the ruff for someone with courage, money and access to parts depending on how much the bidding increases...or doesn't.....