Blakesmaster
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PM me your address again when you get the chance, Brad. I'll have mine in the mail early next week. I assume you won't need the B & C, just the powerhead?
Modding the new MS201T - The truth inside
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PM me your address again when you get the chance, Brad. I'll have mine in the mail early next week. I assume you won't need the B & C, just the powerhead?
I'm sure you could fab something up. Just make a piece of metal that fits in there with the same size hole. Screw it down with a piece of screen sandwiched in between.
gcsupraman
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How about for a 201 rear handle? No extra metal in the crankcase please
-Greg
Are they available yet? I haven't kept up with them. I can get a price for you if you're interested.
This saw is spoken for. I'm just happy to get the truth out there and show you guys what's really up with these. It's not everyday you can get almost 40% gains from a saw without porting!
awesome, that's how they should run, that thing responded to a simple hole bunged in the muffler, snappy as, for a work saw I wouldn't advance the timing, on a 200 anyway, they're hot-rodded enough stock, howling engines on small saws can get tiresome, although the advanced 201 still seemed civilized enough. The untouched 201 in the first vid was so sluggish and spongy you'd almost think it was an Echo, no wonder people were unimpressed
The legend of the 200t lives on....
captain
ArboristSite Lurker
Great post Brad,
What was the size of the stock muffler opening vs your modded opening??
Did you measure the port area at the cylinder? Curious if you are close to the 85% port area opening or beyond that.
Thanks again for the post.
What was the size of the stock muffler opening vs your modded opening??
Did you measure the port area at the cylinder? Curious if you are close to the 85% port area opening or beyond that.
Thanks again for the post.
CWME
ArboristSite Guru
Thanks for putting your time and $ on the line to figure this out.
Wait a minute it aint even broke in yet so how do you know what the potential cutting time will be?
I hope so i have so many of them!
Since I did all thise yesterday, another member made timed cuts with his 200T. He then advanced the timing, a little less than I did on the 201, and it actually slowed the saw down a little. Not every saw responds the same.
Yes it does. With a little modding, the 201 is both faster and stronger than it's predecessor.
I don't get hung up on port area and all that any more. I do what I think looks right and run with it. Works for me.
It can only get better from here
It doesn't even have 2 tanks of fuel through it yet.
A couple things I haven't mentioned here.
The 201T is limited to 13,350. I never actually saw that will revving the saw, but that's what the tach recorded as max RPM. I only saw 13,200 or 13,200. It's tuned well past the limiter, so tuning in the wood is required. I tune it rich, and then slowly lean it out, cut after cut, until I'm comfortable where it is.
The 201 is torquier, or has a wider powerband, than the 200. The 200 doesn't like to be pushed on as much as the 201. The fastest cut times with the 201 were always with a heavy load. I'd love to put one of these in a full time arborists hands and get there feedback. Matter of fact, I'd like to do so with one of those that previously said they were crap.
And to the person that said their mechanic modded the muffler, retuned the carb, and that it made no improvement and throttle response was 1-2 seconds..............I say bah humbug
You need a new mechanic, lol. Even in stock for, it's not that bad. It's really a shame they don't run closer to this from the factory. They've left so much easy meat on the bone that it's not funny.
The 201T is limited to 13,350. I never actually saw that will revving the saw, but that's what the tach recorded as max RPM. I only saw 13,200 or 13,200. It's tuned well past the limiter, so tuning in the wood is required. I tune it rich, and then slowly lean it out, cut after cut, until I'm comfortable where it is.
The 201 is torquier, or has a wider powerband, than the 200. The 200 doesn't like to be pushed on as much as the 201. The fastest cut times with the 201 were always with a heavy load. I'd love to put one of these in a full time arborists hands and get there feedback. Matter of fact, I'd like to do so with one of those that previously said they were crap.
And to the person that said their mechanic modded the muffler, retuned the carb, and that it made no improvement and throttle response was 1-2 seconds..............I say bah humbug
You need a new mechanic, lol. Even in stock for, it's not that bad. It's really a shame they don't run closer to this from the factory. They've left so much easy meat on the bone that it's not funny.
rymancm
ArboristSite Operative
As Brad mentioned, I advanced the timing on my 200t 6 degrees and it actually slowed the saw down 5%. There is some margin of error, but it definitely did NOT make the saw cut faster. Here are the videos. I would love it if someone else tried this test to confirm or disconfirm my results. It's not hard to do and you can reverse it afterwards (which i did).
[video=youtube;BaD5v2M6kl4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaD5v2M6kl4&feature=feedu[/video]
[video=youtube;VmBzDSaj4Jo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmBzDSaj4Jo&feature=feedu[/video]
[video=youtube;BaD5v2M6kl4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaD5v2M6kl4&feature=feedu[/video]
[video=youtube;VmBzDSaj4Jo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmBzDSaj4Jo&feature=feedu[/video]
Mmmm. We'll be eating good tonight
Motorsen
ArboristSite Operative
Mmmmm.
You are a man with many talents. And a great family. Think you should bring forward alot of respect to your nephew from AS members.
Have a nice feast.
Motorsen
Mmmm. We'll be eating good tonight
You are a man with many talents. And a great family. Think you should bring forward alot of respect to your nephew from AS members.
Have a nice feast.
Motorsen
Good to see the young involved with the great sport of hunting and enjoying the outdoors as it should be enjoy, Oh, nice job on that saw too
This is the best venison I've ever eaten. We're all trying to imagine a gamey flavor to it, and it's simply not there. This was a farm grown deer though.
Last night was fantastic. I'm as guilty as anyone else with getting busy and not spending time with the family. Last night was very cool. Everyone wanted in on the action. My nephew and his cousin, the ones that shot it, were whittling away on the carcass. My 12 year old daughter was skinning the legs, lol. My 8 year old niece wanted to take every piece of meat as we cut it off. It was really neat the way it brought everyone together. Now we're all up in the kitchen like a bunch of scavengers around the meat plate
Last night was fantastic. I'm as guilty as anyone else with getting busy and not spending time with the family. Last night was very cool. Everyone wanted in on the action. My nephew and his cousin, the ones that shot it, were whittling away on the carcass. My 12 year old daughter was skinning the legs, lol. My 8 year old niece wanted to take every piece of meat as we cut it off. It was really neat the way it brought everyone together. Now we're all up in the kitchen like a bunch of scavengers around the meat plate
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