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[srb08]

Probably be better if you had your police officer friend with you. What ever you do don't pull the gun on her. Sounds like it could get nasty.

Understood. The sidearm can be a two edged sword. Probably better to leave it in the console of the Gator. I'm pretty sure this bunch are all anti gun and the presence of a firearm, even though perfectly legal, could lead to accusations and open up a new can of worms.
I've decided not to do a night shoot, at least for now.

 

[svk]

Understood. The sidearm can be a two edged sword. Probably better to leave it in the console of the Gator. I'm pretty sure this bunch are all anti gun and the presence of a firearm, even though perfectly legal, could lead to accusations and open up a new can of worms.
I've decided not to do a night shoot, at least for now.

Good idea to keep the gun away.

I once had a confrontation with some morons re trespassing. I had a sidearm in view and they told the sherriff that they felt threatened by my gun (despite each of them having a cased shotgun on their ATV). People will try any angle they can. Good to have a witness. And even better if she again comes on your property to "set you straight".

 

[TeeMan]

Understood. The sidearm can be a two edged sword. Probably better to leave it in the console of the Gator. I'm pretty sure this bunch are all anti gun and the presence of a firearm, even though perfectly legal, could lead to accusations and open up a new can of worms.
I've decided not to do a night shoot, at least for now.

I agree with the previous posts that you should not do anything 'abnormal' like having a night shooting fest...that could be crossing the line of what she sees as a threat to her. Keep cool and continue on your normal activities like you always have.

 

[Whitespider]

Well, if I'm dressed I'm near always armed, so "carrying" would be "normal" for me... she would have seen the thing during the first meeting, so it wouldn't be any surprise during a second. I can't put my finger on it exactly, but a person who carries daily just "wears" a firearm differently than someone who carries occasionally, and I can spot that difference in a second, from a mile away... you can bet a law enforcement officer can also. That's why I was asking if it was "abnormal" behavior for you... even if ya' don't touch it, legal or not, ain't no sense putting up big red flags if she does "make-the-call" and a deputy shows on the scene. In my state, the use of a firearm for intimidation purpose is a serious offense... and if you don't carry daily, just the act of having it on your person when it could be shown you were relatively sure there would be confrontation could be seen as intimidation purpose... even if your hand never touches it.

Seriously man, if you do anything out-of-the-norm (for you)... you are opening yourself up to intensive scrutiny.
If ya' just do exactly as ya' always do, no one can claim differently, and you'll appear to be a guy just going about his own business (which you are).
Stay calm, keep your cool, don't raise your voice... explain to her (or them) that if they have a problem with what you do on your own property they can try legal recourse, and then politely ask them to vacate your private property. If they won't leave and continue to hassle you... use your cell to call the sheriff right in front of them. (Or if they threaten to call the sheriff, just tell them if they don't you will.)

Yeah, I know, that don't sound like me... 'cause it ain't like me... I'd likely grab 'em by the collar and crotch and toss 'em over the fence without ever saying a word (I'd still be calm and cool though). That's me, I've spent a few nights in jail before, I ain't worried about doing it again. Besides, that would be "the-norm" for me... but I'm thinkin' you probably don't want to go to jail.

 

[deepsouth]

I live in suburbia and run saws at times as the ugly it's that won't hand split get noodled and no complaints.

I actually have a stack to do this weekend.

And if I got that attitude when cutting on the bush block it would be too bad.... Go jump from me.

Next time tell her to move her house or pay you $100k? To asphalt or concrete your drive. It's her problem..... Not yours.

 

[GeeVee]

Well.......the plot thickens.
My wife just got a call from one of the neighbors who had talked to the woman, Katherine, not Kathy, Katherine in town earlier today. Katherine had explained to the neighbor that last Monday she had to go down and set me straight regarding the loathsome noise I was creating with my saw. She went on to say that as long as she was out here, noise would not be a problem.
She also told the neighbor that the dust from the roads was very bothersome and would need to be addressed, starting with mine.

I'm headed into town now to pick up fresh fuel for the saws. Maybe I'll pick up a carbide chain, in case I need to cut a Lexus in half.

My BIL is cutting with me tomorrow. I don't want to be alone when the confrontation occurs. If more than one shows up, I don't want it to be my word against three or four, that never ends well.
I'll also be carrying a sidearm.

An opportunity exists....

Invite your other neighbors that heat with wood, hurry quick. even if it costs you some good wood or trees, .

Of course, Kat isn't invited, but welcome to come...

 

[FLHX Storm]

Since she is waging war, arm yourself with a tape recorder or better yet a small video recorder. Digital, not tape. The tape ones are too cumbersome. When you see her coming, turn it on to record the event. That way, if push comes to shove, it's better than a witness. It's all recorded in real time, which reminds me, make sure the time and date stamp are correct. Any time she comes onto the property have it handy. And ALWAYS keep your cool. (especially when recording) A recorder of any kind is the best weapon against trash like this.

I used a recorder against a private investigator. The recorder was placed in my pocket and captured both sides of the conversation and cost him his license after I delivered it to the proper authorities. He was extremely angry about it but left me alone after that.

 

[olyman]

Yesterday, I was talking to one of the other neighbors who told me that this coming weekend, this woman and her husband are having a few other couples out for the weekend to "decompress."
Sounds like a good time for a night shoot. I recently put up lights on my range.
I think I'll even invite my buddy, the Sheriff, he likes shooting at night.
Early Sat and Sun morning will be the perfect time to finish bucking those logs, if it's nice out, I might cut all day.
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DANG good idears!!!! esp the sheriff at your gun range,,hopefully the mouth next door will show,,along with puke old man,,spout off something really out of line,,and your friend could give them a nice escort straight to the bar motel.....educated idiots.....

 

[olyman]

Maybe we need an I hate my neighbor section.

Nah, don't try to get along with your neighbor. Rile them up even more. I mean, you really need to annoy somebody even more. Somebody who you might need to rely on in the future should you get hurt or something.

It's called COMPROMISE people. Now, if you were a real man, you'd forget your inviting the good ol'boys out to shoot, and actually maybe try to cooperate and have a quiet weekend. Listen to your wife. She's got the right idea.

By the way, around here, it is usually the folks who just moved here from the city who are pompous idiots and constantly make noise. Those of us who have been raised in the sticks, appreciate the quiet and don't push it till all hours, any day of the week. We have jobs and many work in noisy occupations. Yes, there is shooting and saws but not every day, not all hours.

Shame on you and others for planning on ratcheting up a mild conflict. That's how some little disagreements end up in a murder (war in the case of big countries) and prison. Or, for a milder conflict, lawyers fees for both of you.

compromising with a leftist,,is like pining a tail,on a moving DONKEY...with the same results,,and the same smell.........

 

[olyman]

Anybody notice that the idea of compromise is always nothing short of totally pandering the opposite view?

If you're not doing anything wrong, by reasonable standards, screw it, just do it.[/QUOTE]

and THEIR brand of ideals,,is ALWAYS askew.....and the compromise with them,,as I responded to one,,is their way, or the highway...LEFTISTS, which is what that slime neighbor is,,NEVER move off of their ideal. you always have to move towards them..thats the leftist mentality. screw them and the horse they drag behind,,and smell like...

 

[haveawoody]

Just go about doing what you do and pretend it never happened.
Life is to short to worry about the nuts that fall on the ground.

If the nut falls on you then do something about it, if not then just do what you do and they can do a similar thing.
If it's a problem person then nothing will make a difference, so just don't waste your time in the effort.
If they don't like what you do when you are simply collecting firewood and driving then moving is always an option for them.

IMO act like a hillbilly, smile, nod and just keep doing what you do
No more no less.

 

[olyman]

My son is an attorney and since I paid for all of his school, I own him.
I really hate to get lawyers involved, it's always a pain in the butt.

maybe so,,but with you raising him,,ill bet hed like a hunk of that arrogant witches arse!!!!!!!!!

 

[ppkgmsy]

I live in rural VT. A couple years ago a new house was being built off a small road near where I live. I would take my little boy to watch the heavy equipment. The guys working would stop and say hello, and would sometimes let my son handle their tools. One day we went to the site and nobody was around. We walked around a bit and then, from out of the house, came a man charging and yellling, "Who are you? What are you doing on my land?" Trying to be a gentleman, I said, "My son likes building sites and we've been watching the progress on your home." His response, "Yea, well, you're trespassing!"

I looked at my son who was looking at this fool, and I simply said to the guy, "You're not from around here are you?"

Sure enough, he was some rich guy from Chicago building his retirement castle. After his first VT winter he moved away.

 

[srb08]

I live in rural VT. A couple years ago a new house was being built off a small road near where I live. I would take my little boy to watch the heavy equipment. The guys working would stop and say hello, and would sometimes let my son handle their tools. One day we went to the site and nobody was around. We walked around a bit and then, from out of the house, came a man charging and yellling, "Who are you? What are you doing on my land?" Trying to be a gentleman, I said, "My son likes building sites and we've been watching the progress on your home." His response, "Yea, well, you're trespassing!"

I looked at my son who was looking at this fool, and I simply said to the guy, "You're not from around here are you?"

Sure enough, he was some rich guy from Chicago building his retirement castle. After his first VT winter he moved away.

I have a feeling that's probably going to be the outcome here.
I don't see anyone changing to accommodate Katherine, especially me.

 

[Stihlofadeal64]

Post the NO Trespassing signs, do your thing and wait. If she comes back the next move is yours. Keep your cool, no body can tell you what to do on your land. Call the cops if she comes down the driveway in full view of the signs. Period.

 

[dave_376]

Sorry for your neighbor issues. I don't have any great advice for you except make sure whatever you are doing it is legal and at the legal time of day. With the gun tragedies from recent years you can't count on anything, even if you are doing something that is "legal" someone may find a way to get you in trouble. In court a left wing judge may decide to rule on their personal feelings or beliefs rather than following the law and you would have to appeal the decision in a higher court. You can't count on anything. Leave the gun at home.
Living in Ct all my life I am used to people like that. When I was house shopping I checked out the neighbors houses, I ended up picking this house based on one of my neighbors having a F250 and a Dixie flag on his shed. I chose good because I get along with my neighbors quite well, they both heat with wood and shoot in their backyards.

 

[shelbythedog]

I agree with the many people above giving the advice to carry on with your chores and recreation as normal and simply invite Katherine to remove herself from your land if she decides to pay you another visit.

And oh my does this make me appreciate my neighbor. I was invited to cut on his land, and shoot guns on his 100 yard range at any time. Most days when I'm cutting he will come by on his quad to say "hi" and thank me for cleaning up the downed timber on his land, and then invite me to stop by when I'm done for a beer from his fridge. He thinks I'm nuts for burning wood and doing all the work that goes along with it, but I think he's nuts for spending $3000/year on propane. We agree to disagree on that issue and it sure works out well for me.

 

[513yj]

The thing to do would be to post no trespassing signs on the edge of our property including the entrance to your driveway on both sides and even a couple down the road. I she comes on your property you tell her respectfully (hard to do at times I know) to remove herself or you will be constrained to notify the authorities. Don't talk to her like a billified bill, you have to use long precise words so she won't think you are some dummy she can intimidate because she feels she is better than you. Lots of opinions but the bottom line is,, it is your property and your driveway and since you pay the taxes you have the right to use them. I'd personally not tick em off on purpose (even though it would be fun), but a man has to make hay when the sun is shining especially when it comes to heating your home. I have some really good lines you could use on her but they wouldn't be helpful really. I would like to see her face if you told her something like you would get a better job and use electric like everyone else if her azz hat prezzy hadn't gotten re-elected and failed to create the better jobs he promised, nor dealt properly with the rising energy costs. I work in the lab at the local hospital, go to skool full time and I fire up whenever I have wood to cut using the rules of common courtesy.

 

[Festus]

This is sure fun for us to sit here at our keyboards and conspire as to what we would do and what you should do (I know I sure enjoyed it), but I think nobody suggested just talking with the sheriff yourself. If he's your buddy it should be no big deal, and I'm sure he has more experience with these situations then any of us redneck, armchair wiseguys. He should be able to let you know where you stand, which might help you to relax a little bit, and heck, maybe he'll even have a nice professional chat with her. That would do more to set her straight then poking a stick in the beehive....so to speak. Maybe I'm wrong and it would just start a tit for tat, peeing match between you, her, and local law enforcement, but I would think the sheriff would have a more informed opinion than us. Good luck.

 

[philoshop]

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Dad waited until the guy was all done with his sputtering, and then looked at him and asked, "Well, what time is breakfast Jeffery?" The answer we got was, "We finish breakfast around 9:30 or 10:00." Dad got this big grin on his face, looked back at the guy and said, "You'd best get with the program Jeff, out here breakfast is at 5:00... we're drinkin' beer by 10:00." Then he started the blower back up and continued like he always had.

Laughed so hard I spit beer on my keyboard! Thanks!