Trip to the stihl store....

[2000ssm6]

.40 Short+Weak outstops .357sig by a considerable amount. you shure your not looking at old data? this stuff was collected in the last couple years.

I'll be waiting for that data, LOL.

I will save you the time though, .357 has replaced the .40, not that .40 was a bad round, but a new sheriff has spoken.

You have not confused the .40 with the 400 corbon have ya?

 

[2000ssm6]

you prolly had a Husky and sold it for a $tihl too.

Did that too, remember that sweet 044 I got for trading the 2171? Gotta love them Stihls!

 

[wanab]

you might find a Husqvarna

or two...

if $tihl where to start making guns i can only guess how that would work out considering Husky has a 100 year head start.

:greenchainsaw:

I'll be waiting for that data, LOL.

I will save you the time though, .357 has replaced the .40, not that .40 was a bad round, but a new sheriff has spoken.

You have not confused the .40 with the 400 corbon have ya?

well seeing how i got you waiting i throw you a bone. this data is more than 10 years old. the new data shows the technology in ammo has favored the other calibers more than .357 sig.




Caliber
Load
Total
Stops
%
ARD
AP

.25 ACP
Win. 45 gr Pelletnose
182
49
27
.30
8.8

.32 ACP
Win. 60 gr Silvertip
132
87
66
.41
9.2

.380 ACP
Fed. 90 gr Hydra-Shok
89
63
71
.56
9.3

.38 Special
Win. 110 gr JHP +P+
42
34
81
.64
12.2

9mm Para.
Fed. 115 gr JHP +P+
162
147
91
.71
13.8

357 Sig
Fed 125 gr JHP
21
19
91
.62
12.2

.357 Mag.
Federal 125 gr JHP
609
585
96
.73
11.2

.40 S&W
Rem. 165 gr Gold Saber
121
114
94
.70
13.8

10mm Auto
Cor-Bon 150 gr JHP
10
9
90
.82
11.1

.41 Mag.
Win. 170 gr Silvertip
51
46
90
.68
14.8

.44 Special
Win. 200 gr Silvertip
61
46
75
.58
13.8

.44 Mag.
Win. 210 gr Silvertip
64
59
92
.81
16.2

.45 ACP
Fed. 230 gr Hydra-Shok
142
136
96
.76
13.9

.45 Colt
Fed. 225 gr LHP
30
24
80
.51
14.6




if you want to discuss the performance or lack there of with the .357 sig with outdated ammo i will be happy to do so. i can assure you with new loads the data favors the .357 mag and .40 S+W more so than this data. of note the under expansion and under penetration of the .357 sig round.

 

[2000ssm6]

Lololololol

if you want to discuss the performance or lack there of with the .357 sig with outdated ammo i will be happy to do so. i can assure you with new loads the data favors the .357 mag and .40 S+W more so than this data. of note the under expansion and under penetration of the .357 sig round.

Where did ya get those off the wall numbers? LOL, you will have to try harder than that with some real facts. You can argue all day and waste time even though you know you are wrong but I can squash this now. You shoot your .40s and hope they stop their target and I will keep shooting the .357 sig because I have seen ballistic gel and flesh/meat shot with both rounds. Just as Stihls, give me the Sig everytime, speaking of which, time for sum beers!

 

[wanab]

Where did ya get those off the wall numbers? LOL, you will have to try harder than that with some real facts. You can argue all day and waste time even though you know you are wrong but I can squash this now. You shoot your .40s and hope they stop their target and I will keep shooting the .357 sig because I have seen ballistic gel and flesh/meat shot with both rounds. Just as Stihls, give me the Sig everytime, speaking of which, time for sum beers!

they come from real shootings that number in the many thousands so you see the average numbers are validated as a whole . it does not come from shooting into gel on a bench or some hick shooting a jug of water in the back yard. yes i shoot the .40 and the 9mm+P and have confidence in both rounds, well more than the .357 sig anyway.

LMAO!


try again!

 

[excess650]

if $tihl where to start making guns i can only guess how that would work out considering Husky has a 100 year head start.

:greenchainsaw:

Try again.....Husqvarna started out making muskets in 1689.

Founded in 1689, Husqvarna is one of the oldest industrial companies in the world. Husqvarna begins as a weapons forge, with muskets as its speciality. Although production is largely manual, Husqvarna Gevärsfaktori (Husqvarna Rifle Factory) comes to be somewhat of a cradle of the Swedish high-precision industry. Under the leadership of Factory Manager Joachim Ehrenpreuss, production soon expands.

 

[Jkebxjunke]

Back to the original topic... chainsaw right? what is it your are gonna be cutting and how much use is it going to have?
I have a Stihl MS 250 its a good saw and will cut fine.. I used it for 3 years as my only saw for firewood... ( then I found this site... grrr) if you are not cutting anything over 18" then you don't need a big saw... a 441 or a 660 ( I am only going to refer to the saws I have...) the MS250 is a nice saw for the money.. ( ok here comes the flack) but I have found it to be reliable, nice weight and is somewhat affordable... It is the top of the homeowner line of saws... and if your dad is not cutting professionally then it would be fine...and it also depends on how much weight he wants to huff around... ... in response to the plastic on the saws... yeah it seems that most all of them have plastic... but plastic has one nice feature.. it don't weigh much.
ok that's my 2 cents... I don't have an input on a 361.. ( yet.. I want one though but $$ right now is going other places.... )

 

[bump_r]

Dude...you should try burping a Vernors through your nose.

That'll make that Pepsi seem like a warm summer rain...

Wow, just did a Dr. Pepper. Good Lord Almighty, felt likse someone smacked me inthe head with a wire brush! Not recommended.

I'll stay away from the Vernors.