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I use a dremel for rocked chains and rounding off rakers.

The USFS , utility companies, highway departments.....

60-100 $ adds up if you're running a fleet of outdoor power equipment.

how 'bout a piltz hotsaw ms 250 ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/292681924429?hash=item442533bf4d:g:cfoAAOSwvGpbcwOB :rolleyes:

Hand filing. I find that touching up a chain regularly is easy. But then again, I only cut firewood for the household.

I've gotten yeoman service from a 450 for ten years of intermittent use. It's performance seems comparable to a friends 353. I wanted something with more power, though, and got a 555. I use both.

Loaned a saw.

New as of 2017. Still had the vanguard chain on it.

555

A 555, fuel,oil, scrench, file and a peavey.

Guess

I sure like my 450 better than my old model 029.

Thanks

Looking for a saw with more snot than my 450. Any saw I get will more than likely sit on the shelf (floor) for six months or so at a time. Are the plastic saws better suited for extended disuse ? If so maybe the 465 , otherwise I'm gonna opt for a 555.

Filing rakers on "safety" chains can be a royal pita.

I agree with GeorgiaVol. I also think that a 450 is worth $150 more than a pp5020.

I've used a 450 since 2010 to keep my house warm. It works pretty well. It does what it is supposed to. I read the manual on hot starting and I know how to file.

Doesn't the Dolmar have a cat muffler ? I'd rather have a strat that a cat.

I'm a firewood scavenger for home heating only. Although I yearn for a pro saw and sometimes wish for something bigger, my lil' husq 450 with a razor sharp lpx chain gets the job done. Sawing is the fun part. Most of the work is dragging , splitting and stacking.