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recently started carving furniture with my saw HELP!

Discussion in 'Wood Carving & Turning' started by hank scheel, Feb 28, 2018.

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    hank scheel ArboristSite Lurker

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    I am very new to the carving world and have just finished a few projects such as a Chair out of a red oak stump and and bar stool out of cedar. I have a husky 465 rancher with a 20” bar I’m using to make my large cuts. And a kutzal black grinder disc to shape. Im already buying some more grinding disks that aren’t as aggressive. But I’m really wanting another saw with a quarter tip or dime tip to get some of the hard to cut spots taken care of safely. I was looking at the ms192 carving saw but I think it’s a little small for the projects I’m getting into. Please any help on this would be greatly appreciated. I also want to get into more carving as I progress so keep that in mind also. Any help would be awesome
     
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    fatgraderman ArboristSite Member

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    Ms192 isn’t my favourite. Maybe a 201 but it is pricey. You could ask if there’s a 1/4” spur for a ms211?


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    hank scheel ArboristSite Lurker

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    Thanks a lot for responding. I will look into them. I’m wanting to sell my stool set I’m building currently and sell them to purchase the new saw. If I have to make more stuff that’s really not a big deal I’m really enjoying doing this stuff.
     
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    Dolmar Enthusiast Saw Stalker

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    I don't want to recommend this if you aren't fairly proficient with scary stuff and knowing your limits, but I think these are the BOMB( or whatever the kids are saying these days)

    With caution these can be very effective at shaping and removing material. Sort of scary on a 14000 rpm grinder but still works well, although a 10-11000 rpm setup would be better for starting out. With caution I used this extensively, while shaping material in the palm of my hand,but as a rule, I generally do things that you shouldn't do! IMG_20180129_175220.jpg This is a Lancelot brand that I purchased from Grizzly years ago, although I recently saw that HF sells something similar.
    Very simple device, the 2 plates allow for slight slippage so kickback or other less than desirable traits are avoided.
    Good luck with your furniture manufacturing, its fun stuff!

    Safety Glasses are a must!

    And welcome to the jungle...
     
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    hank scheel ArboristSite Lurker

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    I almost bought a Lancelot but I opted for the kutzal black disk and let me tell you it straight removes material. Like you said though being very careful while using it. I think I will get one down the road but I want a finer tungsten carbide blade first to smooth out some of my lines more quickly at the moment.
     
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    Those IMHO can catch and kick. Personal use -experience while working inside a three gallon red oak stein. No room for side handle which must be in place for safe use. I have a 192 that I won't use for carving. A ms-170 with a dime tip is enough power to keep my cuts shallow to avoid kickback and the back handle helps with control of the chain and what is left behind. Twoclones makes use of 90cc saw for roughing out on his large carves. That is outside my pay grade, even though I have a 661. I don't know where I heard that " focus on building skill first, speed will follow"
    Stay safe while you enjoy
     
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    I have never experienced kickback with one. Is there a possibility that you tightened the nut with any thing other than your hand? It requires a minimal amount of slippage between the disc to act as a clutch if you will. I never use mine with the handle. This is the first thing that I ever used it on, pinewood derby car. It took less than 10 min to learn how to use, rough in with Lancelot, fine tune with aa 4in1 rasp and finish with paper. I realize that it's not museum quality but it was my first and I also had to put out about 13 of em that night (various designs) but this was accomplished with the aforementioned scary 14,000 rpm grinder in the palm of my hand(in no way am I recommending that!) It has some fairly tight contours for what it was and who was doing it!

    And a 3gal Stein, that's a serious load of PBR!
    LANCELOT also not recommended for use after partaking in the elimination of a 3gal Stein of PBR:rolleyes: :cheers:

    IMG_20180129_211156.jpg IMG_20180129_210941.jpg

    You are 100% correct about speed not being important, and I only list the 10 min time frame as a demonstration of the ability of this tool to accomplish a given task and because it really impressed me.
    What end of Missouri are you located SeMo? Perhaps South East Mo.? I am currently a little more than an hour south of Branson, come see us, we'll leave the gate open. Matt...
     
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    I keep thinking I’m going to need a bigger saw bc I’m lobbing out large chunks and thanks for the infor I drink a lot of beer so I really don’t need something that will cut me lol the disk I got works great but I do lose finger tips from time to time I botched up my latest bar stool last night so I’m gona have to slow down thanks for the help buddy
     
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    hank scheel ArboristSite Lurker

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    That’s awesome for your first deal I made the chair that’s my profile pic and am wanting to do some more. Thanks for the invite I’m thinking about going to Luckys to get some building material for my shop soon so I might have to hit you up on that. Hopefully I keep getting some nice stuff out so I can make the money to buy tools thanks for all the help
     
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    I’m more or less looking for a chain saw to buy from this post
     
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    Trading Post thread is The Place!! I've got two pro saws at very good prices, an 046 to match up with the ms-460 on a dual powerhead milling bar. And a 661 with ported cylinder that just rocks.
    Play safe y'all
     
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