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The fool is you. Provide proof, third party verification, to back your claims or hush it.

BTW...you're not mad are you...:hmm3grin2orange:

Okay smart guy...perhaps you could prove me wrong. (This is an easy challenge for me to make, because it's not possible...)

So until you can prove me wrong, with verification from an independent third party, you can "hush it." And I can continue to make the legitimate claim that Husqvarna makes and sells more chainsaws than any other company in the world. Even though it doesn't matter.

BTW, not mad at all. Worried, at this point, that I might be trying to teach a pig to sing, though. :D

BTW BTW, Tom Hall is not an acceptable "third party."

Triple BTW, neither is Ultra. :D
 
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What your saying here makes no sense TZ250, just denial. For optimum carb resetting with a screwdriver you need good view of the screwdriver witness mark looking down at the top of the screwdriver handle.Only the Huskys,etc. offer that in an ergonomic comfortable position. For you and your saws own safety never ever hold the saw wide open while setting the carb.
You say your Stihl starter handle does not turn to the backwards position,I think you are full of it. We will let the masses decide on this one. The angled position of the Husky starter handle into the rewind housing offers smooth ergonomic pull starting. Why bother carry extra weight of the Elastostart and the added difficulty to change or retie the rope.
The Husky rectangle rear handle offers increased grip and control of the saw, better balanced grip of both hands.
Your question "why is the Husky front handle not square?" This totally discredits you TZ250.

Willard.

Well Willard since I can tell you are not a smart man by switching to husky I'm going to help ya out. I can't see your 044 now but my old 044 was designed the same way as this 440. I have made a yellow arrow pointing to the better Stihl handle design. There are flat spots on the starter handle that mesh with the starter handle seat to keep the handle from "rotating". Is this a big deal to anyone? Don't think so since I can spin my 2171's handle 360 degrees without it even running. You are the only guy I know of that has mentioned a "problem" with any saws starting system, LOL. So the Stihl is the better handle and overall the better saw. Better built, better handling, more power.

You boys just can't accept the #3 position can ya?.:D Give it up on the BS, we have heard enough of the nit picking, carry it somewhere else.:clap:

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Man Holmen, you sure are windy and over some of the most subjective criteria in a saw. You are the man-who-would-be-king of the tempest in a teapot. I cant imagine that guys that do this for a living would pick these kind of knits, especially if they work for a big logging out fit were they might not even be using the same saw if the company changes over or their normal saw is being serviced. This is not an office job where you gotta have the perfect ergonomic chair. Also ergonomics are different for every person. I happen to like my homelite 750's best because it feels good to use them and they cut faster than most of the other stuff that I use. My mac 125 has a much better feel to ME tham the 084's that I have and in spite of this I like ALL of the saws I own of all brands! As for my credibility, well I have been felling big trees for removal and for firewood for 18 years and have worked for an arborist as a ground guy. I am a personal trainer now by trade but in the beginning when I wasn't making a full living through that I was selling firewood too to supplement my income. Now I do these other tree jobs on the weekends for saw money. This not counting my young years helping my grandfather and uncles log off the family farm and bring in firewood for many local familys. I know that I am not a proffessional logger and don't claim to be but when you say that I an not credible because Tommy and I took some time to have some fun cutting a few cookies that is a big assumption and narrow minded. I own all brands of saw including a husky and I like what I like.
 
And I can continue to make the legitimate claim that Husqvarna makes and sells more chainsaws than any other company in the world.

Is that "claim" anything like you claimed the 2153 was a better saw than the 5100?:D

Stihl will always be #1, been that way for years..........
 
What your saying here makes no sense TZ250, just denial. For optimum carb resetting with a screwdriver you need good view of the screwdriver witness mark looking down at the top of the screwdriver handle.Only the Huskys,etc. offer that in an ergonomic comfortable position. For you and your saws own safety never ever hold the saw wide open while setting the carb.
You say your Stihl starter handle does not turn to the backwards position,I think you are full of it. We will let the masses decide on this one. The angled position of the Husky starter handle into the rewind housing offers smooth ergonomic pull starting. Why bother carry extra weight of the Elastostart and the added difficulty to change or retie the rope.
The Husky rectangle rear handle offers increased grip and control of the saw, better balanced grip of both hands.
Your question "why is the Husky front handle not square?" This totally discredits you TZ250.

Willard.



Have you ever even run a saw??


You obviously know nothing about tuning a saw. Witness marks on the
screwdriver!!! LMFAO!!!!!

If you don't know how to hold a saw wide open and tune it maybe you should go play shuffleboard.

Extra weight of the Elastostart????!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

By your statement you have obviously never replaced an Elastotart rope...You don't have to tie them silly!!!!

Your opinion on the rear handle...Why is the rear handle square and the front handle round? Explain it!!!!!!!

You have discredited yourself from the start of your post in this thread....Along with your claim of cutting 2 million trees in another. You were fully called on that little statement...Your BS factor is over the top!!!!

Once again...The basic design of your new wonder saw has existed since the 272 way back in the day...even the square handle. If these items are so important you would have been running the Swede saw all of this time, so you are either full of it or you screwed yourself for not figuring it out sooner. You found the 372 at the end of its lifespan, sorry about your luck.

Happy sawing:clap:
 
Homie it looks like you've rattled on till you got yourself in bit of a bind here. All these little things you point out about your new 372 as features may well seem like features to you but as you can see from the responces not just by me but others as well many don't agree with your opinon. I really don't understand what your trying to prove. I told you before if you like the 372 better thats all fine and dandy. You don't need to convince me or anyone else on by pointing all these little things you consider features. Enjoy that saw, run it and be happy. There's no need for to justify your purchase to anyone. Your rave over it has gone beyond the normal pale of most users I know of.

I have noticed you don't respond to more obvious facts when they are pointed out to you. You made no reply of the starter handle I showed you on my 372, why not. Was that a pizz poor rope job or not? Does it matter to me, not at all but the way you carry on it should have bugged you. You joked that I screwed up the case on my 372 on purpose instead of merely admitting its a defective saw right out of the same factory where your 372 came from. My 372 runs fine Homie but that doesn't excuse it from being what it is, a defective saw, a very costly defect I have never seen in a Stihl to date. I showed you a 044 and a 372 sitting side by side with screwdrivers in the carb adjust slots. One on the right, one on the left. There is no advantage either way in my opinion. When pointed out with a camera you had no comment. I showed those big strong spring mounts on the 441 and once again you had no comment. You can ignore all ya want but the pics do not lie and they were there for anyone to see, not just you. Many others commented, had fun and carried on but you never said a word. If your taking everything serious with these saws then you need to admit some of the obvious when its pointed to you.

Finally and foremost you made mention a credibilty issue with Hoss and me as though we're not quaifiled somehow to judge a saw on its merit. Hoss has over 60 saws, I just counted mine, I got 45 all toll and several different brands as does Hoss. Your sig says you own 8. I've given away a helluva lot more saws than that Homie and many on this site can vouch for that. Your a arbortist or timber faller. You probably do have more cut time under your belt but experiance with saws in general I doubt it. Have you ever tried a Dolmar. If you think that 372 is a speed machine for its weight try a 7900 Dolmar and tell us what you think, the 7900 will bury that 372 without even breathing hard. I'm just a little saw fixer upper man Homie. I've repaired thousands of saws and I've sold thousands of saws. I too have talked to many many aborists and tree fallers but I've never had one carry on about little things like you do. The pro guys I have talked to over the years have never made issues out of the piddly things you speak of. You make bones about switching to Husky, I sit and grin knowing I've switched many many many Husky users over to Stihl and they've have never looked back. In all Homie the point I'm making is this. The engineers didn't pay any mind to you, some the guys on this site have taken issue with you so maybe you should re-think your approach. Your present approach of spouting hoop la over nothing seems to be catching up with ya. I just thought I'd be kind enuff to point it out to ya. I do admire the fight in ya I must say but those soft punches of piddly things you throw out are gonna leave you laying on the matt 99.9% of the time. The Husky camp isn't going to mock you over them but us on the other side are laffing our azzes off. Your gonna have to train harder Homie before I'll even let ya in the ring with me, I have too much moral fiber to be going to jail for beating up a lightweight, :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange: :hmm3grin2orange:
 
Hey Tzed i have Stihl screwdrivers that have an arrow on the end as a reference and the Makita one has a big lump for the same reason , I guess this is what he meant by witness marks!
 
Hey Tzed i have Stihl screwdrivers that have an arrow on the end as a reference and the Makita one has a big lump for the same reason , I guess this is what he meant by witness marks!

So true, thats exactly what he meant. However a real saw man uses his ear with the help of a tach, the screwdriver is rarely looked at all when tuning a saw by a PRO, homeowners may use those little marks though...
 
So true, thats exactly what he meant. However a real saw man uses his ear with the help of a tach, the screwdriver is rarely looked at all when tuning a saw by a PRO, homeowners may use those little marks though...

+1 i only use them for counting that 1 turn from closed (I use 1 turn as an example before someone picks on me lol)
 
+1 i only use them for counting that 1 turn from closed (I use 1 turn as an example before someone picks on me lol)

Exactly, you know what your talking about. One turn out and go from there. I always just turn em all the way in, back out one full turn. Done it so much I don't even look at the screwdriver anymore, good post!!
 
+1 i only use them for counting that 1 turn from closed (I use 1 turn as an example before someone picks on me lol)

Exactly, you know what your talking about. One turn out and go from there. I always just turn em all the way in, back out one full turn. Done it so much I don't even look at the screwdriver anymore, good post!!

Looks like I got a witness mark or two:clap:
 
Exactly, you know what your talking about. One turn out and go from there. I always just turn em all the way in, back out one full turn. Done it so much I don't even look at the screwdriver anymore, good post!!

Before i noticed those little arrows i was never sure if i had 1 turn out 3/4 of a turn or 1 1/4 lol

Hey Thall you ever tune a Makita RBC420E strimmer
http://www.hobuk.co.uk/acatalog/RBC420E.html
We have loads of these POS (IMO) strimmers here and i can get them better but never good, The guys can be 2 mins of it bogging down before it will finally run at WOT
 
Looks like I got a witness mark or two:clap:

Well T I don't think I was too ruff on Homie. I didn't bring up the fact about the Elasco starter handle. I never knew they weighed all that much till Homie pointed it out. I've never notice the extra weight of those handles but I have noticed they sure do feel good,hehehe.
 
Well T I don't think I was too ruff on Homie. I didn't bring up the fact about the Elasco starter handle. I never knew they weighed all that much till Homie pointed it out. I've never notice the extra weight of those handles but I have noticed they sure do feel good,hehehe.

Your high moral fiber won't allow you to be to rough on Homie!!!

Me on the other hand, my moral fiber is less high, and it might seem as if I had beat him like a red-headed step child.

I must rise to a higher level and not allow myself to be drug into the ditch so easily.

There is always tomorrow...:)
 
Before i noticed those little arrows i was never sure if i had 1 turn out 3/4 of a turn or 1 1/4 lol

Hey Thall you ever tune a Makita RBC420E strimmer
http://www.hobuk.co.uk/acatalog/RBC420E.html
We have loads of these POS (IMO) strimmers here and i can get them better but never good, The guys can be 2 mins of it bogging down before it will finally run at WOT

No Makita trimmers in my area, I've never had one come in the shop. We did have a Makita dealer a few miles from us a few years back. He didn't last long, he closed up shop. I did have one of his Makita concrete saws come in after he closed up. Man was all pizzed off cause I had no parts for it. He was giving me some rude slack and I politely told him I didn't sell you the f-cking thing, don't come in here b-tching to me about it. See I'm a nice guy. That guy cooled his jets real quick. Sold him a TS700 and sent him on his way...
 

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