What 50 cc saw

[SawTroll]

Jonsered 2153/2153wh.

Hard to find them without the "c" (2153c/cwh) in the US....

 

[tallguys]

I bought my 550xp for $545 with a 18"...

Hey, you brought up the money scenario... I answered it. What? Do you think just because something is priced a certain way where you are it's the same everywhere else?

But thanks all the same for helping me address what I think is one of the reasons, but not the only one, as to why Husqvarna is so popular in the USA.

It is one of the lower priced alternatives. If they mirrored what they did in Canada, I'd be willing to wager their sales would plummet. Call it "a hunch".

 

[Tree Feller]

Hey, you brought up the money scenario... I answered it. What? Do you think just because something is priced a certain way where you are it's the same everywhere else?

But thanks all the same for helping me address what I think is one of the reasons, but not the only one, as to why Husqvarna is so popular in the USA.

It is one of the lower priced alternatives. If they mirrored what they did in Canada, I'd be willing to wager their sales would plummet. Call it "a hunch".

Tallguys what do the Dolmar's run up there? Down here you can get a dolmar 510 for 399.99 or a little less maybe w/out tax. In my area Stihl's are by far the most expensive???? Thats part of the reason i dont have one.

 

[tallguys]

Tallguys what do the Dolmar's run up there? Down here you can get a dolmar 510 for 399.99 or a little less maybe w/out tax. In my area Stihl's are by far the most expensive???? Thats part of the reason i dont have one.

Hi Tree Feller, a Dolmar 510 goes for about $430 and the 5105 about $520 before tax. By comparison the Stihl 261 retails for $649 but they run a promo in the autumn where it's $599 and includes the case, extra chain and of course, the baseball cap. By comparison, a 346xp sells for $700-$749 plus tax.

 

[Tree Feller]

Hi Tree Feller, a Dolmar 510 goes for about $430 and the 5105 about $520 before tax. By comparison the Stihl 261 retails for $649 but they run a promo in the autumn where it's $599 and includes the case, extra chain and of course, the baseball cap. By comparison, a 346xp sells for $700-$749 plus tax.

Sounds like Dolmar is alot closer across the board than the BIG two???

 

[H 2 H]

I do wonder how many of you fellows have actually ran a 261. Set them both down in a cut and see which one goes to work. A 261 has the power advantage, even though those stopwatch seconds don't mean sheit to me.

Geez, you sound like a Husvarna salesman.

And ST is one of Husky salesman

ST; How much time do you have running a MS 461 or MS 261 or even the Husky 550; Would love to here the answer to that one :wink2:

Zero...

I Stihl can't get over this quote and he Stihl talks about them

I bought my 550xp for $545 with a 18"...

If that 18" is the bar size ? that is WAY to big for that saw. Like one of the Husky salesman has said over and over again he run's a 15" b/c on 59 cc chain saw :jester:

 

[nmurph]

And ST is one of Husky salesman





I Stihl can't get over this quote and he Stihl talks about them




If that 18" is the bar size ? that is WAY to big for that saw. Like one of the Husky salesman has said over and over again he run's a 15" b/c on 59 cc chain saw :jester:

Dude, you really need to let up on the personal vendetta against ST. It is wearing as thin as the bias you are arguing against. I'm not taking up for ST, he is more than capable of doing that himself. ST has been around a lot longer than you. I have seen many just like you come and go, mounting attacks against anything Niko posts. They are gone and he's not. He is what he is, and your are not going to change him. If you don't agree, that's fine. I don't agree with what is said sometimes. But to attempt to embarrass and harrass him is really silly. You are as much of a Stihlhead as he is a Husky lover- both wear blinders to much of what the other side says. Just ease up some.

 

[VTWoodchuck]

261 was my choice a few weeks ago. $610 otd with 18" bar and extra loop of rsc. Yes, it was a little pricy but I feel you get what you pay for. I'm working on doing a review but want a few more days cutting with it, 8 tanks through it so far and I really like it!
I still love my 350(homeowner 346) and use it along with the 261.
I picked the stihl over the husky for these reasons-
-more "robust" feel to it
-inboard clutch
-made in USA(I'm not opposed to Sweden at all, but can't stand made in china crap)
-captive bar nuts
-the reports of "torque" vs high speed
-the reviews by bsnelling, mastermind, stumpy, indiansprings and several others with alot of experince cutting with/moding the 261

There are 2 great shops near me that sell stihl and husky. Another shop sells jred, dolmar and echo. All within 30 min, so dealer support was a nonissue for me.

as for the whole weight and balance topic-
SawTroll
This user is on your Ignore List.

 

[nmurph]

261 was my choice a few weeks ago. $610 otd with 18" bar and extra loop of rsc. Yes, it was a little pricy but I feel you get what you pay for. I'm working on doing a review but want a few more days cutting with it, 8 tanks through it so far and I really like it!
I still love my 350(homeowner 346) and use it along with the 261.
I picked the stihl over the husky for these reasons-
-more "robust" feel to it
-inboard clutch
-made in USA(I'm not opposed to Sweden at all, but can't stand made in china crap)
-captive bar nuts
-the reports of "torque" vs high speed
-the reviews by bsnelling, mastermind, stumpy, indiansprings and several others with alot of experince cutting with/moding the 261

There are 2 great shops near me that sell stihl and husky. Another shop sells jred, dolmar and echo. All within 30 min, so dealer support was a nonissue for me.

as for the whole weight and balance topic-
SawTroll
This user is on your Ignore List.

I believe that Stihl assembles some of its products in China. I believe all Husky OPE is assembled in Sweden...could be wrong though! I do know that Husky has a mower plant about 75 miles from here.

 

[H 2 H]

Dude, you really need to let up on the personal vendetta against ST. It is wearing as thin as the bias you are arguing against. I'm not taking up for ST, he is more than capable of doing that himself. ST has been around a lot longer than you. I have seen many just like you come and go, mounting attacks against anything Niko posts. They are gone and he's not. He is what he is, and your are not going to change him. If you don't agree, that's fine. I don't agree with what is said sometimes. But to attempt to embarrass and harrass him is really silly. You are as much of a Stihlhead as he is a Husky lover- both wear blinders to much of what the other side says. Just ease up some.

That's right I like Stihl more than I like Husky chain saw's that why I try saw's out before I get a chain saw and I don't talk about stuff I haven't used

If you think I'm the only one check out the signature line of alot of the members here and see if ST has been quoted in anyone else signature line

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3) If your going to take ST's opinion as fact you've missed the boat.
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And quotes like this

...... but that's based on posts I have read, not personal experience....

LOL, I know enough that I predicted how the saw would handle long before it was released anywhere, based on pictures of the interior of the saw, on the German Stihl site (I read German very well) ...

I can and so can members here read BS

 

[nmurph]

READ my post carefully, and understand that I am not arguing your point.

 

[H 2 H]

Your right I'm bringing myself down to his level

 

[VTWoodchuck]

I believe that Stihl assembles some of its products in China. I believe all Husky OPE is assembled in Sweden...could be wrong though! I do know that Husky has a mower plant about 75 miles from here.

Ouch, thats too bad. I haven't looked into all thier products and was refering to the 261 specificaly. Its hard to tell these days. I heard that to be called 'made in america' it only has to be 70% or something. I don't get too hung up about it but I do try buy local or american if I can.

 

[nmurph]

Your right I'm bringing myself down to his level

:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[mad murdock]

Easy answer to this argument-Get a used McCulloch Promac 10-10A, fixed up and tuned properly, it will start easy, cut like a banshee and last for 50 years+, oh, and you will save a ton of money over a new saw

 

[cjtreeclimber]

Hi I am in the process of getting a 50 cc saw, I am very happy with my 372 and was looking at a 346 or 550, but in order to get a new saw I need to get rid of my ms311 which I am not crazy about, and the only dealer who will do a trade is the Stihl dealer, so therefore I am looking at a 261, which looks like a good saw and seems comparable to the Huskys, not to mention I like having one of each, but do not want to regret not getting a Husky; Any way a little input on these saws is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I've used that 290 farm boss don't get it its junk. If you want to be a stihl follower among the hoard of zombies go with the ms 260 if you find one, but I think there is the 261 probably now which might have had some emissions change which could slow it down. I Have a friend I work with and I think he has a Husqavarna and he swears by it that it cuts better than the ms 260; though, I haven't used it. I'm pretty sure My Echo cs 530 performs much better at cutting than that ms 260 but I haven't yet put my hands on that Husqvarna 346 xp yet. So with that said, get a pro saw. Stihl ms 260, Echo cs 510 or 530, or Husqavarna 346 xp. I think for some weird reason the 50'cc saws are the pros over the 55 cc saws . . . correct me if I'm wrong guys.

 

[XSKIER]

I believe that Stihl assembles some of its products in China. I believe all Husky OPE is assembled in Sweden...could be wrong though! I do know that Husky has a mower plant about 75 miles from here.

Where do you suppose the Husqy branded Poulan "influenced" OPE is manufactured? Those units have to make up a pretty good amount sales.

 

[TK]

My hang up with the 550 is the Autotune. Not the technology itself, but the requirement that the ignition and carb be replaced as a unit if either needs to be changed. Does the small increase in power and loss of weight off-set the potential additional cost when parts have to be replaced? Probably so, but right now I'm still on the fence about the "upgrade." One of the beauties of a chainsaw is it's utter simplicity. Until the advent of Autotune/M-tronic electronics were very limited in their application in saws. And while AT/MT do make it easier to keep a saw in running condition (tune) for the untrained user, the off-set is the increase in complexity, equipment required to repair, and in initial and repair cost.

BTW, what do the parts (ignition and carb) cost?

Your concern with the auto tune is unwarranted. The coil has a lifetime warranty or up to seven years after the last year that model was produced. So if you have a coil failure - it's free. If there are only newer coils available that don't match your carb - then the carb is replaced under warranty also! At most, the only thing you may have to pay for is the carb when out of warranty, the coil will always be covered. I think the last I saw the carb came with the autotune on it and it was in the vicinity of $70-90, which is less expensive than some conventional carbs out there. You worry for nothing my friend.

 

[SawTroll]

I believe that Stihl assembles some of its products in China. I believe all Husky OPE is assembled in Sweden...could be wrong though! I do know that Husky has a mower plant about 75 miles from here.

Husky owns a lot of different factories in many parts of the world, that make different kinds and quality levels of OPE stuff, sold under assorted brand names.
The high and decent quality chainsaws are made at the original Husky factory in Sweden though, except a few that are made at the Zenoah (Redmax) factory in Japan, and some older models in Brazil.
The really low end saws (mostly not Husky or Jonsered branded, but there are exceptions) have been made at the Poulan factory in the US and in Italy (the old McC. Europe factory), but they do at least have plans for a factory in China.
Then there is the TOMOS factory in Slovenia (earlier Yugoslavia) that has been licensed to make certain models. I don't know if that still is going on, but haven't seen any evidense of it in many years. This was initiated by the infamous Swedish prime minister Olof Palme in the early 1970s, as a gesture to the Yugo. dictator Tito. Models I know was made there was the 65, 77, 61, 66 and the 266xp (the late production of all models).

 

[indiansprings]

Stihl reportedly has produced some MS 170's and BG55 blowers in China, supposedly however they are going to be only for distrobution in the Pacific Rim, and try to keep product in the US market limited to product made in Virginia Beach and the 440,441,460,461,660,880 in Germany. The 261 and 362 are made in the USA along with the rest of the line up. The exception is the carberators being made in China, the same as Husky.
Stihl has invested heavily in manafacturing facilities here in the USA.
Most people will beech and beech about American's losing jobs to foriegn countries, but vote with their dollar by buying product that is made in those foriegn countries. Most are all mouth and no action about keeping money in their home communities at the mom and pop stores, buying at the big boxes and off shore products. It is obvious Stihl could have built their new bar manafacturing facility in a country with cheaper labor, less regulations and less corporate taxes as we have the highest corporate taxes in the world, but they chose to invest in their biggest market for the time being. China/Pacific Rim will rapidly become their biggest market, it's why they are building factories there, to service that market, smart move, no transportation, cheap labor, investing in the market.