I'm fustrated....

[chainsawjohnny]

Hi, I'm the alleged Husqvarna 394 chainsaw thief.

To all those concerned,

The "master" and I are trying to work things out. I did not steal the Husqvarna 394. In fact I don't believe anything illegal occurred (theft of the Husqvarna 394) with the loss of this Husky. This item was purchased at a United States Postal Service (USPS) auction. Look it up. When a package, especially a large package is sent via (USPS) ... the sender is gambling. Don't expect anyone to lift a finger to insure delivery. It is my opinion that the slightest of package problems will get them kicked to the side. I don't really suspect a grand conspiracy or the like ... just some small percentage of employees that don't care. I'm sure making an insurance claim is a bureaucratic nightmare .. it's tough to get money from an organization that's bled dry.

So I'm pretty sure this unfortunate occurrence will fall into my usual "no good deed goes unpunished" file. Sounds like the vigilantes are getting ready to "string'm up" with zero evidence. btw some self righteous fed or prosecutor may see some criminality there ... not that I'm going to say ####e.

So can y'all hold your horses for a bit? I bet we can figure out a reasonable solution.

Thanks,
John

 

[Hinerman]

To all those concerned,

The "master" and I are trying to work things out. I did not steal the Husqvarna 394. In fact I don't believe anything illegal occurred (theft of the Husqvarna 394) with the loss of this Husky. This item was purchased at a United States Postal Service (USPS) auction. Look it up. When a package, especially a large package is sent via (USPS) ... the sender is gambling. Don't expect anyone to lift a finger to insure delivery. It is my opinion that the slightest of package problems will get them kicked to the side. I don't really suspect a grand conspiracy or the like ... just some small percentage of employees that don't care. I'm sure making an insurance claim is a bureaucratic nightmare .. it's tough to get money from an organization that's bled dry.

So I'm pretty sure this unfortunate occurrence will fall into my usual "no good deed goes unpunished" file. Sounds like the vigilantes are getting ready to "string'm up" with zero evidence. btw some self righteous fed or prosecutor may see some criminality there ... not that I'm going to say ####e.

So can y'all hold your horses for a bit? I bet we can figure out a reasonable solution.

Thanks,
John

Sounds good. Props to you for showing up and working with Randy. Stick around and your willingness to do the right thing will be rewarded somehow....

 

[bryanr2]

We do run a tight crew here. Randy is one of the most (if not the most) liked/ respected saw builders we have here. I, like many think very highly of him, and consider him family. The same comradery that you are seeing here as a "posse" is shared across the AS community for all our members. If this gets worked out aimiably, and you choose to stick around, you would come to appreciate the brotherhood we have here. Randy has done as much as anyone on AS helping others out when in need and that kindness doesn't go unseen. The "right thing" is not always the "easy thing to do." If the roles were reversed- you would feel the same as he does...... so would I. And given the same scenario we would all be expecting the "right thing" to be done irregardless of financial loss/ gain.

 

[Hinerman]

We do run a tight crew here. Randy is one of the most (if not the most) liked/ respected saw builders we have here. I, like many think very highly of him, and consider him family. The same comradery that you are seeing here as a "posse" is shared across the AS community for all our members. If this gets worked out aimiably, and you choose to stick around, you would come to appreciate the brotherhood we have here. Randy has done as much as anyone on AS helping others out when in need and that kindness doesn't go unseen. The "right thing" is not always the "easy thing to do." If the roles were reversed- you would feel the same as he does...... so would I. And given the same scenario we would all be expecting the "right thing" to be done irregardless of financial loss/ gain.

Well said. If the shoe was on the other foot, there is no doubt what Randy (and everybody I know on here) would do.

 

[Dan_in_WI]

Attaboy, kick him when he's down!!

There are plenty of ways you can hurt a man
And bring him to the ground
You can beat him
You can cheat him
You can treat him bad and leave him
When he's down
But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you
I'm standing on my own two feet

 

[moody]

To all those concerned,

The "master" and I are trying to work things out. I did not steal the Husqvarna 394. In fact I don't believe anything illegal occurred (theft of the Husqvarna 394) with the loss of this Husky. This item was purchased at a United States Postal Service (USPS) auction. Look it up. When a package, especially a large package is sent via (USPS) ... the sender is gambling. Don't expect anyone to lift a finger to insure delivery. It is my opinion that the slightest of package problems will get them kicked to the side. I don't really suspect a grand conspiracy or the like ... just some small percentage of employees that don't care. I'm sure making an insurance claim is a bureaucratic nightmare .. it's tough to get money from an organization that's bled dry.

So I'm pretty sure this unfortunate occurrence will fall into my usual "no good deed goes unpunished" file. Sounds like the vigilantes are getting ready to "string'm up" with zero evidence. btw some self righteous fed or prosecutor may see some criminality there ... not that I'm going to say ####e.

So can y'all hold your horses for a bit? I bet we can figure out a reasonable solution.

Thanks,
John

That statement is like a slap to the face from Helen Keller. Glad to see you working something out with Randy. The illegal action was USPS bending Randy over and shafting him for the past year.

 

[Eccentric]

That statement is like a slap to the face from Helen Keller. Glad to see you working something out with Randy. The illegal action was USPS bending Randy over and shafting him for the past year.

So I wasn't the only one that was put off by that statement...

 

[Sprint60]

What a crock of ####. The USPS has profited off another mans losses. They collected to ship the saw, they collected a fee for insurance, they denied the insurance claim, and they collected from the sale of a lost saw!!! Damn crooks.....

The irony is that it's mail fraud.

"If we ran the post office like a business, we'd have had a fire last week." - Johnny Carson

 

[Hinerman]

So I wasn't the only one that was put off by that statement...

It probably wasn't the best statement but keep in mind that Chainsawjohnny was in his own little world today when he woke up. He bought some stuff at a USPS auction and tried to flip it on fleabay. He hasn't done anything wrong. When his auction went viral on AS several members on here contacted him. There is no telling what they said to him. He may have been threatened; if not, he sure feels threatened. Not to mention, he has read this thread where people have talked about getting his address and paying him a visit. He was probably thinking what the ####'s hornets nest have I walked into.

So he shows up here with his back against the wall and the AS posse in front of him. One of his posts has already been deleted so he tries again. Was it the best first post on AS? No, but put your self in his shoes. He didn't have to do anything but he is here and he is working with Randy. Let's commend him for that and offer to do what it takes to make it right for he and Randy. We don't know his situation.

I'm done. Good night all. Saw on.

 

[Icedogs28]

No disrespect intended, but I've heard horror stories from people trying to get UPS to pay a claim. I've also had my own problems with UPS leaving packages that required a signature on someones front porch without even knocking to see if anyone was home. One case of leaving one on a neighbors front porch and another lost for a few days. These were expensive and insured items, shipped overnight with UPS.

I've also had issues with Fed Ex. But the one service I can always count on is USPS Express overnight Mail. Priority isn't quite as dependable, but have only lost one package of the 2000-3000 or so I've shipped in the last 10 years.

Also packaging and labeling is very important! I've received stuff before that looked like a 6 year old packed it and wounder how in the hell it ever got to me!!!

no offense taken, i will be the first to say that UPS is a dirty, evil, cheap company. and yes, they try to do everything to get out of paying claims. but they do. driver does a follow up, pkg isnt there, we pay the claim. driver gets in trouble, but the claim is paid. and like i said, im not saying we dont lose or damage stuff, because we do. but we lose and damage FAR LESS stuff than fed ex or usps. and have a much better online tracking system, which helps find lost pkgs.

 

[chainsawjohnny]

The "right thing"

Hello,

So I'm curious what the "right thing" to do might be ... it's not that clear to me? In a nutshell I believe this is what happened .. The master modified a clients chainsaw and sent it to him via USPS. I'm not sure but he may have insured the shipment. I don't know the Master but I would assume he is quite thorough and experienced when packing and sending a chainsaw package. His client does not receive the package and the Master has to deal with the USPS. Unfortunately without success. One year later, I purchase a "lot" of chainsaws that the USPS was selling. These saws were, for whatever reason, "lost during the shipping process". So at this point I'm purchasing items from a federal agency. This agency claims they cannot find the original owner. So what is the "right" thing to do at this point? .... Do YOU know? ... I will say that if the "right" thing is to do anything other than selling the merchandise and keeping the money ... in other words if that's the wrong thing to do. Then why waste my time and energy? Is it immoral or just plain "wrong" to purchase lost merchandise? Am I expected to return merchandise that I have paid cold hard cash for to anyone that stakes a claim? Sounds like the Master is friend to many and a great guy. Can we pretend for a minute that it's someone else? I truly am curious what the unbiased answer would be ... ??

Johnny the Alleged Thief.

 

[Steve NW WI]

Hello,

So I'm curious what the "right thing" to do might be ... it's not that clear to me? In a nutshell I believe this is what happened .. The master modified a clients chainsaw and sent it to him via USPS. I'm not sure but he may have insured the shipment. I don't know the Master but I would assume he is quite thorough and experienced when packing and sending a chainsaw package. His client does not receive the package and the Master has to deal with the USPS. Unfortunately without success. One year later, I purchase a "lot" of chainsaws that the USPS was selling. These saws were, for whatever reason, "lost during the shipping process". So at this point I'm purchasing items from a federal agency. This agency claims they cannot find the original owner. So what is the "right" thing to do at this point? .... Do YOU know? ... I will say that if the "right" thing is to do anything other than selling the merchandise and keeping the money ... in other words if that's the wrong thing to do. Then why waste my time and energy? Is it immoral or just plain "wrong" to purchase lost merchandise? Am I expected to return merchandise that I have paid cold hard cash for to anyone that stakes a claim? Sounds like the Master is friend to many and a great guy. Can we pretend for a minute that it's someone else? I truly am curious what the unbiased answer would be ... ??

Johnny the Alleged Thief.

Johnny, please don't take these guys the wrong way. Some people are naturally suspicious.

Now, guys, I'm gonna ask nicely, to let Randy (Mastermind) and Johnny do their best to work something out to their mutual satisfaction. 99.99% of us have no vested interest in this, only an urge to see a happy ever after, which may or may not come.

Anything inflammatory from the sidelines from here on out, until this matter is decided one way or another, is gonna get a PM from me. Trust me when I say you won't like it.

 

[jtracy1223]

I would say if you wanted to be diplomatic you could A: sell him back his saw at the price you paid (if sold as a lot that would be hard to put a number on but hey) B: work with him to help him get usps to pay his claim. Not sure what you could do but that's between the 2 of you. Not sure what the other opptions are but I'm sure as grown men you can figger something out.

I for one don't consider you a "theif" you bought a saw from an action hosted by a federal agency. If anyone is at fault it is usps. You have gone out of your way to deal with this problem. And I can understand that you are not overly eager to just fork over something that you paid good money for and could make a good profit on. Its a rock and a hard place to be sure. I hope that the two of you can figger out a end that makes you both happy. Not sure how much interest you have in chainsaws but maybe mastermind would be willing to do some work on one of your saws in return for the saw that was lost? Anyway good luck and thanks for stopping by to clear your good name

 

[Hinerman]

Hello,

So I'm curious what the "right thing" to do might be ... it's not that clear to me? In a nutshell I believe this is what happened .. The master modified a clients chainsaw and sent it to him via USPS. I'm not sure but he may have insured the shipment. I don't know the Master but I would assume he is quite thorough and experienced when packing and sending a chainsaw package. His client does not receive the package and the Master has to deal with the USPS. Unfortunately without success. One year later, I purchase a "lot" of chainsaws that the USPS was selling. These saws were, for whatever reason, "lost during the shipping process". So at this point I'm purchasing items from a federal agency. This agency claims they cannot find the original owner. So what is the "right" thing to do at this point? .... Do YOU know? ... I will say that if the "right" thing is to do anything other than selling the merchandise and keeping the money ... in other words if that's the wrong thing to do. Then why waste my time and energy? Is it immoral or just plain "wrong" to purchase lost merchandise? Am I expected to return merchandise that I have paid cold hard cash for to anyone that stakes a claim? Sounds like the Master is friend to many and a great guy. Can we pretend for a minute that it's someone else? I truly am curious what the unbiased answer would be ... ??

Johnny the Alleged Thief.

You're no thief. Very good question. There is no black or white answer. To me, the right thing would be to return the saw to the rightful owner. You should at least be repaid for the saw and shipping. You are not obligated to do anything however. You have done nothing wrong. If Randy tells you to keep it, then keep it. Fine with me. If the saw was originally mine; and, if you needed money and are depending on the profits from the sale of this saw to pay bills or whatever, I would tell you to "Keep the saw and sell it, make some profit, and feed the kids. And thank you for pulling the auction, for contacting me and working with me." The problem is I don't know yours or Randy's situation. Somebody donated a saw to Randy to account for the one lost by USPS. he may want to give them the saw as pay back.

Bottom line is: You have to do decide for yourself what is right between you and Randy. He is reasonable. You should hash this out with him. You should be asking him these questions.

 

[Steve NW WI]

Guys, PLEASE...

It's getting late, I'm getting cranky. Let MM and Johnny try to settle this.

 

[Eccentric]

Unsubscribing. When this whole thing has 'resolved' (however it goes)..............................I'd greatly appreciate it if one of my friends here would please send me a PM to let me know...

 

[Yukon Stihl]

Anyone have any cake? It is my birthday and there are far more folks peeping at this thread than I'm friends with here. May as well make this a party

Mine too,pass the cake

 

[singinwoodwackr]

I'm going to post before the lock. opcorn:opcorn:

do we 'reach around' and pat each other on the backs?

 

[singinwoodwackr]

To all those concerned,

The "master" and I are trying to work things out. I did not steal the Husqvarna 394. In fact I don't believe anything illegal occurred (theft of the Husqvarna 394) with the loss of this Husky. This item was purchased at a United States Postal Service (USPS) auction. Look it up. When a package, especially a large package is sent via (USPS) ... the sender is gambling. Don't expect anyone to lift a finger to insure delivery. It is my opinion that the slightest of package problems will get them kicked to the side. I don't really suspect a grand conspiracy or the like ... just some small percentage of employees that don't care. I'm sure making an insurance claim is a bureaucratic nightmare .. it's tough to get money from an organization that's bled dry.

So I'm pretty sure this unfortunate occurrence will fall into my usual "no good deed goes unpunished" file. Sounds like the vigilantes are getting ready to "string'm up" with zero evidence. btw some self righteous fed or prosecutor may see some criminality there ... not that I'm going to say ####e.

So can y'all hold your horses for a bit? I bet we can figure out a reasonable solution.

Thanks,
John

You are not the thief. The US government is. :msp_angry: I'm not convinced this was just some sort of 'unfortunate occurrence' on their part...too many instances of exactly the same 'occurrence'...seems you just got caught up in their scam.

 

[thomas1]

So he forgot the L. Big deal.

You forgot the "e" and the "d" in "mentioned".

Guido? GUIDO?

Cleanup on page 17!

(but I digress....., as it were)

Nothing is random. :msp_wink: