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I assume the crankcase must have been replaced at some point, as there is no ID tags on the saw, and with you saying it has a lower muffler mount, but it has the replaceable big end and older starter type, just 1 last question, what's this big bolt for on the front?View attachment 309547

Stihl call it a drain plug, but there is a Stihl tool called a 'Crankshaft locking nut', that fits in there to lock the crank, to help with removing the clutch, etc .

And the lack of tag's was common on Super's!
 
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Ok, i've just been out to the shed and check some old cases, what you have there is a Contra/Lightning Super case!......Now heres the part that got me!! It has the two piece con-rod, (early) but it also has the lower muffler mount (late)........Very interesting!

So it was a mule before I started?! Strange that its a super base but had a 58mm p&c. Do you think the lower muffler mount may be from a replaced top end?
 
So it was a mule before I started?! Strange that its a super base but had a 58mm p&c. Do you think the lower muffler mount may be from a replaced top end?


The early 090 cases's were just Contra S cases's anyway. Only the top end was different.

( not sure when they added that lower muffy mount boss ).

It is easy to swap on the smaller jug and convert an S to a 070 or a 106 contra.

One of my first saws was a 106 contra jug on an 090 case. I turned it back to an 090.

The gear drive saws come with the smaller jug but will swap to the larger one pretty quick. :msp_thumbup:

Finding a good 137 contra jug and piston is the hardest part.

This was an 090 G 106cc converted to a 137 contra topper, called it a Contra GS clone. :biggrin:

 
The early 090 cases's were just Contra S cases's anyway. Only the top end was different.

( not sure when they added that lower muffy mount boss ).

It is easy to swap on the smaller jug and convert an S to a 070 or a 106 contra.

One of my first saws was a 106 contra jug on an 090 case. I turned it back to an 090.

The gear drive saws come with the smaller jug but will swap to the larger one pretty quick. :msp_thumbup:

Finding a good 137 contra jug and piston is the hardest part.

This was an 090 G 106cc converted to a 137 contra topper, called it a Contra GS clone. :biggrin:


Back at post #371, AS Member SEAM, suggested that the later Contra case was as per the 070/090 case and would accept either cylinder, (58 or 66mm) it would appear to be so!

I'm working on a Contra Gear-drive for a friend, part of the job is machining the case to accept the 137cc cylinder, it's at the shop now, there was a bit of stuffing around to get the case true and square!......Is there a easy way, am i missing something?
 
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The Contra G has been around since the Contra was introduced in 1959. The Contra "S" and "GS" came out in 1964. I wonder if the "G" and "GS" shared a common case :msp_confused: . But I doubt there ever was a Contra G(S) with the 090G case which would accept both cylinders.
 
The Contra G has been around since the Contra was introduced in 1959. The Contra "S" and "GS" came out in 1964. I wonder if the "G" and "GS" shared a common case :msp_confused: . But I doubt there ever was a Contra G(S) with the 090G case which would accept both cylinders.

Unfortunately there's no common case for the "G" that i know of! Hence the machining job i'm doing on a 106cc G....

Have a look back at AS member Bill G's posts from a few weeks ago.........090 Chain Drive!!
 
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The STIHL logo on orange background appeared long after the Contra was replaced by the 070/090. Only the very last (or current) 070/090 have this kind of starter.
 
The Contra G has been around since the Contra was introduced in 1959. The Contra "S" and "GS" came out in 1964. I wonder if the "G" and "GS" shared a common case :msp_confused: . But I doubt there ever was a Contra G(S) with the 090G case which would accept both cylinders.

I don't believe the Contra G was introduced until 1964. I could be wrong but, in 1959 the debut of the "regular" Contra was a pretty big deal.
 
I don't believe the Contra G was introduced until 1964. I could be wrong but, in 1959 the debut of the "regular" Contra was a pretty big deal.

I have several dealer packs with models and pricing from 60-62 with no mention or a gear drive model.


pics about the G and GS tell that G was first out before the GS. I think maybe G came in 64 and GS came by 65 or 66.



1958 Blitz BLK ad that anounces the contra lightning release in late 58.







 
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