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Darn it, I was just going to get a ported 084. Now I'm going to have to reconsider getting two ported 562's instead.

Please allow myself to introduce..............myself
 
unbelievable. Missed out on a brand new 2260 in the classifieds bc of the no port list. :buttkick:Guess it's back on the "potential purchase" list
 
No wonder my early 562 runs so good...I never fell for Husky's BS to "upgrade" to the new parts...
Yeah cuz they designed the saw/carb/at system to have it run as it came from the factory, not modified. What was "Husky's BS to "upgrade" to the new parts?

Why would you "upgrade" if you didn't have an issue? Did Husky ever sent you a letter with respect to an "upgrade"?
 
I never got a letter, but the dealership where I bought mine (and I used to work at) informed me of the "upgrades." Having been through multiple recalls/retrofits/parts updates as an employee, I know how the process works. My take on it was that 1.- Husky's design engineers did thorough product testing prior to releasing the 562, and 2.- I would wait until my machine presented a problem before seeking a fix.

My 562 is modified BTW, with work to the cylinder, piston, and muffler.
 
Gentlemen, gentlemen. While we are chasing a solution to this hesitation issue, let's be careful that we don't draw the wrong conclusion. From talking to TK, Terry and a couple others, it seems like everyone is zeroing in on the main nozzle as the culprit here. Someone, tried a nozzle out of an EL44 and the problem went away. So far so good. However, a check of IPL's for the 44, 46, and 47 carbs all show the same part number for the main nozzle. So, concluding that the EL44 is good and the EL46 is bad, would not be correct. Further, a look at the service bulletin announcing the change to the updated carbs reveals the reason for the change, which was the addition of the extra service connector to make it easier to plug it into the diagnostic tool. Also, at this time, the AT module automatically comes with the carb and is no longer available as a separate part. This explains why the 562 and 555 got "different" carbs; EL46 for the 562 and EL47 for the 555. So that and no changes to the IPL suggest that there may be no internal changes to the carb itself.

So what's up with the nozzle, part # 576414201? Not really sure, cause there are still some unanswered questions. And the problem does not affect all saws; just a small number actually. One possibility is that there are simply some bad nozzles out there. Another guess is that Zama could have manufactured some carbs with the wrong nozzle. And it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. When the EBZ8500 first came out, some were blowing up because they got carbs that had the nozzle from the smaller EBZ7500. They would run lean and detonate like heck. Some pistons looked like they had been shot with a .22.

I certainly don't have an answer yet, but let's all be sure of what's going on before drawing any conclusions here. I'll make a call to tech service on Monday and see what I can learn and I'll e-mail a contact in Sweden and see what his thoughts are.
 
Gentlemen, gentlemen. While we are chasing a solution to this hesitation issue, let's be careful that we don't draw the wrong conclusion. From talking to TK, Terry and a couple others, it seems like everyone is zeroing in on the main nozzle as the culprit here. Someone, tried a nozzle out of an EL44 and the problem went away. So far so good. However, a check of IPL's for the 44, 46, and 47 carbs all show the same part number for the main nozzle. So, concluding that the EL44 is good and the EL46 is bad, would not be correct. Further, a look at the service bulletin announcing the change to the updated carbs reveals the reason for the change, which was the addition of the extra service connector to make it easier to plug it into the diagnostic tool. Also, at this time, the AT module automatically comes with the carb and is no longer available as a separate part. This explains why the 562 and 555 got "different" carbs; EL46 for the 562 and EL47 for the 555. So that and no changes to the IPL suggest that there may be no internal changes to the carb itself.

So what's up with the nozzle, part # 576414201? Not really sure, cause there are still some unanswered questions. And the problem does not affect all saws; just a small number actually. One possibility is that there are simply some bad nozzles out there. Another guess is that Zama could have manufactured some carbs with the wrong nozzle. And it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. When the EBZ8500 first came out, some were blowing up because they got carbs that had the nozzle from the smaller EBZ7500. They would run lean and detonate like heck. Some pistons looked like they had been shot with a .22.

I certainly don't have an answer yet, but let's all be sure of what's going on before drawing any conclusions here. I'll make a call to tech service on Monday and see what I can learn and I'll e-mail a contact in Sweden and see what his thoughts are.

Spike, thank you for acknowledging there is a valid issue. More importantly, thank you for making a great effort to get to the bottom of the problem and resolve it. Not the least of which is using any contact in Sweden (husky HQ?) to move the ball on this. I know there are some good dudes working this out behind the scenes on AS, but the only thing that gets any notice here is all the negative speculation behind the 562xp. I hate to see the 562 get a bad rep. I hope that all the good members and dealers here that are working together can bend the right ear at Husky HQ so everyone can move forward repairing, selling and using these great saws.
 
Gentlemen, gentlemen. While we are chasing a solution to this hesitation issue, let's be careful that we don't draw the wrong conclusion. From talking to TK, Terry and a couple others, it seems like everyone is zeroing in on the main nozzle as the culprit here. Someone, tried a nozzle out of an EL44 and the problem went away. So far so good. However, a check of IPL's for the 44, 46, and 47 carbs all show the same part number for the main nozzle. So, concluding that the EL44 is good and the EL46 is bad, would not be correct. Further, a look at the service bulletin announcing the change to the updated carbs reveals the reason for the change, which was the addition of the extra service connector to make it easier to plug it into the diagnostic tool. Also, at this time, the AT module automatically comes with the carb and is no longer available as a separate part. This explains why the 562 and 555 got "different" carbs; EL46 for the 562 and EL47 for the 555. So that and no changes to the IPL suggest that there may be no internal changes to the carb itself.

So what's up with the nozzle, part # 576414201? Not really sure, cause there are still some unanswered questions. And the problem does not affect all saws; just a small number actually. One possibility is that there are simply some bad nozzles out there. Another guess is that Zama could have manufactured some carbs with the wrong nozzle. And it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. When the EBZ8500 first came out, some were blowing up because they got carbs that had the nozzle from the smaller EBZ7500. They would run lean and detonate like heck. Some pistons looked like they had been shot with a .22.

I certainly don't have an answer yet, but let's all be sure of what's going on before drawing any conclusions here. I'll make a call to tech service on Monday and see what I can learn and I'll e-mail a contact in Sweden and see what his thoughts are.

If you had checked the nozzle, you would know in fact while they have the same part number they are very different.

How did they draw into the nozzle? Interesting how these things lay out. TK and Randy are the only guys that have bothered to carry a conversation on with me about this issue.
 
Look identical..right?

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The one given to Matt yesterday had a properly drilled orifice.
 
If you had checked the nozzle, you would know in fact while they have the same part number they are very different.

How did they draw into the nozzle? Interesting how these things lay out. TK and Randy are the only guys that have bothered to carry a conversation on with me about this issue.

Yeah, I got a couple in yesterday but haven't yanked out an old one to compare. Do notice they are silver and not brass looking. As far as a conversation, give me a call. Snowing pretty good here and I hardly think we'll be interrupted by customers coming in. I wish I had someone local with this issue so I could mess around with one.
 
Wow, that's quite a difference is right.
The silver, and current nozzles being shipped have an orifice open to the metering diaphragm. The old brass item has an indention as if they intended to add one but failed.

Couple guys are testing saws today with the swap. TK and Stihlonlynow hopefully will have some more confirmed fixed saws. Haven't 100% called it yet due to the limited number of swaps.


PS The silver nozzle pictured came out of a el44. All el46's so far have had the brass. Interesting if they know about it as Husky has reverted back??
 
I have a el46 with swapped nozzle I'm running today. Nozzles are different. Probably a leftover inventory from el44 support, sure hope they don't start shipping non drilled brass Nozzles when these run out LOL. I'll let ya know how this goes. Have a few other carb adjustments to play with at the same time.

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