Teupen Lift Video

[cody.matthees]

What is it about the tracked lifts that make them so freakin expensive? To someone like myself who doesn't know a ton about them they appear to be a regular tow behind mounted onto a mini excavator undercarriage. There's probably more to it then that but still, 200k seems ridiculous.

Or are they made completely out of unobtanium?

 

[2treeornot2tree]

I would imagine alot of the expensiveness is because they can be.

Great thing about a lift vs a climber is, the lift doesn't get tired.

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[stihlaficionado]

What is it about the tracked lifts that make them so freakin expensive? To someone like myself who doesn't know a ton about them they appear to be a regular tow behind mounted onto a mini excavator undercarriage. There's probably more to it then that but still, 200k seems ridiculous.

Or are they made completely out of unobtanium?

Part of this imo is that the machine is manufactured in Germany & shipped & assembled here I believe . So one has to contend with the $ to Euro spread. He said that w/i one year to price had rocketed from $115,000 to $150,000.

It has the ability to maneuver in tight spaces when a bucket truck can't go. To my knowledge he's the only one in this area that has one. It'll be paid off in 5 years.

 

[Toddppm]

and the errs and omissions and recall insurance that they have to carry when people start falling out of the sky in these things has to be huge!

 

[MasterBlaster]

Holy caca! That's over 3 grand a month! He must have an awesome client list.

 

[jefflovstrom]

Holy caca! That's over 3 grand a month! He must have an awesome client list.

Maybe he makes more than that a day.
Jeff

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Holy caca! That's over 3 grand a month! He must have an awesome client list.

3k is only like 2 small jobs you have to do a month.

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[MasterBlaster]

Lordy.

 

[STClimber]

The Teupen TC69A is not $200K, and the annual operating costs are about 1/8th of a bucket truck of the same size. Most tree companies can pay for the machines monthly payment in 1-3 jobs... and they are using it several times a week. If you have a lot of EAB effected trees then this machine is amazing for never needing to set 1 foot on the tree itself that may be completely compromised and unsafe to climb. Check out the pdf I have attached which will show the working envelope of the machine. The basket is rated for 440lbs and even with that much weight in the basket you have a full range of motion. If you have questions give Chris a call in the office. 800-525-8873

 

[Pelorus]

3k is only like 2 small jobs you have to do a month.

Most tree companies can pay for the machines monthly payment in 1-3 jobs

Something is way off kilter in suggesting that ALL of the $$$ a customer pays you for a job is pure profit that can be applied against a Teupen loan.

Were employees and fuel free those days?
Insurance, equipment depreciation, advertising costs didn't get charged to those days the Teupen was making you $$$?

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Something is way off kilter in suggesting that ALL of the $$$ a customer pays you for a job is pure profit that can be applied against a Teupen loan.

if I work for a whole day and make $2500. about $200 of that Is fuel, and another $200 is labor. so that still leaves me with $2100 profit. wow I just paid for the lift for the month in one job.

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[Pelorus]

if I work for a whole day and make $2500. about $200 of that Is fuel, and another $200 is labor. so that still leaves me with $2100 profit. wow I just paid for the lift for the month in one job.

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You do not get left with $2100 profit.
I ain't no accountant or bean counter, but trust me, you are not accounting for a lot of other expenses which are less visible.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

You do not get left with $2100 profit.
I ain't no accountant or bean counter, but trust me, you are not accounting for a lot of other expenses which are less visible.

well like what? you wanna argue, give me some specifics

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[Pelorus]

I don't wanna argue! But heck, it's raining out, and I'm feeling lethargic, so let's go a round or two:
Did you pay cash for the machine, or was it financed.....interest payments? What interest rate?
Does the equipment never break down or require parts & maintenance? Even if you are Joe Mechanic as well as an arborist, do you put no value on the hours you spend working on equipment? Are parts and lubricants and filters free?
Is the electricity free in your shop where you work on your equipment?
How about depreciation? Is your equipment worth the same amount at the end if the year as at the beginning? How are you gonna replace the relics eventually?
Does your accountant work for free? Sutures free at the hospital ER? (in Canada they are, but that's cause I live in a socialist nanny state, lol)
Zero funds get spent on marketing your services?
No insurance (liability, building, equipment) costs ? I betcha Teupen / finance co. wants you to have insurance on that lift if there is a loan on it.
WSIB?

 

[2treeornot2tree]

Well if I figured all of that stuff out to what it cost me a day, It would be more then a couple hundred dollars. If you gonna spend that kind of coin for a machine like that, your working it more then a day a week.

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[Pelorus]

Add up all that crap, and divide it into the amount of days you worked last year.
And then don't tell me your $2500 job paid for the lift that month.
Your voodoo Nigerian economics degree ain't worth what the prince charged you.

 

[Pelorus]

Well if I figured all of that stuff out to what it cost me a day, It would be more then a couple hundred dollars. If you gonna spend that kind of coin for a machine like that, your working it more then a day a week.

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You're right - you have to (by financial necessity alone) be working that thing to the max. And promoting it, and taking it to little simple jobs like a crabapple pruning where you really don't need it. It is gonna make you lazy. And you are gonna become a Teupen Zombie that thinks that no tree is safe to climb anymore.
Trouble is, it's also gonna start breaking ($$$$$) and becoming a puppy that pees on your carpet. You will develop a love / hate relationship for it. It will become a heartbreaker and ulcer maker.

 

[Blakesmaster]

You're right - you have to (by financial necessity alone) be working that thing to the max. And promoting it, and taking it to little simple jobs like a crabapple pruning where you really don't need it. It is gonna make you lazy. And you are gonna become a Teupen Zombie that thinks that no tree is safe to climb anymore.
Trouble is, it's also gonna start breaking ($$$$$) and becoming a puppy that pees on your carpet. You will develop a love / hate relationship for it. It will become a heartbreaker and ulcer maker.

Maybe you don't need to buy one then? If someone has the work load to justify it, more power to 'em. I don't see one on my lot anytime soon.

 

[Zale]

Tuepen Zombie, I don't like the sound of that.

 

[2treeornot2tree]

In the Next two years, I will have one. Either a 75' or a 92'

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