661 Oil Test 32:1 vs 40:1 vs 50:1 ?

[bikemike]

32:1 with the best fuel won't defeat this

50:1 with a great tune won't beat this

That looks fast i bet its a race saw. Never mind its missing crome valve covers and cold air intake

 

[Trx250r180]

What kind of oil caps do you guys like ?

 

[SAWMIKAZE]

What kind of oil caps do you guys like ?

The twisty flip screw in kind..

 

[PES+]

Realized I am posting in an oil thread....

done now but interested in the results.

 

[Marshy]

So I have a general question about this here test. Regarding running a stopwatch, do you think the difference in cutting speed between each test ratio will exceed the reaction time of the person holding the watch? Reaction time can be as high as half a second... Why not just run the saw on a dyno to prove which makes the best power..?

 

[redbull660]

yes the times exceeded more than half a sec difference.

2am alarm. starting more up loads. heh

 

[CR888]

It has everything to do with tune. I have never had a hard starting 2 cycle engine, that was in prooper running condition in the 25 some years I've been running OPE. Take no offense, but it is clear you're out of your depth.

I thought you were at least going to bring up the corrosion issues some early 2T syn oils had, or the issues with rubber deterioration. All of which is a thing of the past, well unless you run Some Klotz products like original TechniPlate or Super TechniPlate.

Well its a quite well documented fact that corrosion issues take place in the off season for motorcross/marine applications due to synthetics attracting moisture due to the hygroscopic nature of them. As l said we will elaborate in depth what l consider the mistruths surrounding synthetics. Believe me there is quite a lot to talk about. l am just busy doing a number of things atm. Maybe soon we can also elaborate exactly who is out of their depth.

 

[Marshy]

Well its a quite well documented fact that corrosion issues take place in the off season for motorcross/marine applications due to synthetics attracting moisture due to the hygroscopic nature of them. As l said we will elaborate in depth what l consider the mistruths surrounding synthetics. Believe me there is quite a lot to talk about. l am just busy doing a number of things atm. Maybe soon we can also elaborate exactly who is out of their depth.

When you have the time, please post the supporting documented proof as well.

 

[ChoppyChoppy]

Not "all" firewood guys...

It's funny all the firewood guys and saw builders worry so much about fuel and oil. In the tree business nobody pays attention to what kind of oil they are using or where the fuel came from. They (not me I'm a bit more anal about my saws) just mix whatever they got at 50:1 and run those saws everyday year after year and never have problems. It seems the guys who screw around with their saws too much are the ones who have issues. I don't do too much I just make sure to use fresh gas and always run Husqvarna oil at 40:1 and keep my filters clean and saws in tune.

And plugs can't forget fresh spark plugs every season.

 

[mdavlee]

It has everything to do with tune. I have never had a hard starting 2 cycle engine, that was in prooper running condition in the 25 some years I've been running OPE. Take no offense, but it is clear you're out of your depth.

I thought you were at least going to bring up the corrosion issues some early 2T syn oils had, or the issues with rubber deterioration. All of which is a thing of the past, well unless you run Some Klotz products like original TechniPlate or Super TechniPlate.

I thought original techniplate is what they used for flush gas after the alcohol or methanol mix? There's one more that doesn't have rust protection that I've used and can't remember now which one it was.

 

[bikemike]

The twisty flip screw in kind..

Twist caps less moving parts to break

 

[Andyshine77]

I thought original techniplate is what they used for flush gas after the alcohol or methanol mix? There's one more that doesn't have rust protection that I've used and can't remember now which one it was.

Original mixes with alcohol, but offers little corrosion resistance, and is not recommend as a storage oil. With that said quite a few people here have used it for many years, without any evidence of corrosion. R50 on the other hand is an ideal storage oil.

 

[Andyshine77]

Well its a quite well documented fact that corrosion issues take place in the off season for motorcross/marine applications due to synthetics attracting moisture due to the hygroscopic nature of them. As l said we will elaborate in depth what l consider the mistruths surrounding synthetics. Believe me there is quite a lot to talk about. l am just busy doing a number of things atm. Maybe soon we can also elaborate exactly who is out of their depth.

30+ years ago it was a problem. Again some of the older products are not recommend as storage lubricants, original tech and some Red line products.

You seem to have plenty of time to post, so please enlighten us with the facts you're trying to gather while I type. But what do I known my saws won't stat, darn synthetic oils.

 

[mdavlee]

Original mixes with alcohol, but offers little corrosion resistance, and is not recommend as a storage oil. With that said quite a few people here have used it for many years, without any evidence of corrosion. R50 on the other hand is an ideal storage oil.

I never knew that original doesn't have any protection. I used it for a year or so after I switched from ultra. I used a gallon of the mix but don't have any of the same saws from then to check.

 

[KG441c]

30 years ago it was a problem. Again some of the older products are not recommend as storage lubricants, original tech and some Red line products.

You seem to have plenty of time to post, so please enlighten us with the facts you're trying to gather while I type. But what do I known my saws won't stat, darn synthetic oils.

Lol! All my saws start really good with H1R

 

[Mastermind]

I'm gonna run Belray H1R 32:1 no matter what any test "proves".....

I've been inside a **** ton on saw engines. When I pull one down that's been ran on less, or "cheaper" oil, I don't like what I see. Yeah, with my own eyes.

I've used K2, Motul, Mobil 2T, and H1R. They are all great oils. But at any ratio less than 32:1, I'd feel as though I was cheaping out on the level of protection.

 

[KG441c]

I'm gonna run Belray H1R 32:1 no matter what any test "proves".....

I've been inside a **** ton on saw engines. When I pull one down that's been ran on less, or "cheaper" oil, I don't like what I see. Yeah, with my own eyes.

I've used K2, Motul, Mobil 2T, and H1R. They are all great oils. But at any ratio less than 32:1, I'd feel as though I was cheaping out on the level of protection.

X2! Even when I mix a customers saw at 50to1 Im thinking the whole time this son of a gun is gonna fry!!!! Lol!!

 

[Trx250r180]

So is maxima 927 castor ,more for water cooled vs air cooled ? Anyone know ? I have a quart of the stuff i was wanting to use up .

 

[KenJax Tree]

Maxima 927 is probably the best oil period. Its fine for air cooled. Mix it with VP C12 and smell it[emoji7]

 

[mdavlee]

I used a whole quart of 927 in a 395 milling in a couple days. I guess it got hot enough to not cause a mess inside. Seems the milling saws don't have deposits like a firewood saw.