Heating it up In the bedroom.

[SamT1]

So I prefer to just snuggle, but the wife does not. House is 100% electric, 2 units, 2500sqft.

There is a fireplace with an earth stove insert in the addition that keeps the living room and kitchen nice. Sometimes hot. That unit stays off in the winter, don’t even need it. If we’re gone and fire goes out the other unit keeps that area 60ish, it’s well insulated.

House is shaped like a horse shoe and the master is exactly as far as it could be from the fireplace. I’m interested in adding a stove of some sort to the master and trying to keep the unit in that area of the house from running too.
We have plans to remove a wall that will open up the kitchen and dining room, as well as make it where the fireplace heats everything but the 3 bedrooms.

my wife tolerates the wood chips and ash In the living room but I don’t think she would go for it in the bedroom. Plus I think a stove would burn us out anyway. I have land and can grow corn no problem. Do y’all think that’s an option to buy a pellet/corn stove and run it on a thermostat in my bedroom? Room is 20x15 other bedrooms are smaller and down the hall. I’d burn all corn, not interesting in buying pellets. I could probably plant 3 acres and feed my freezer beefs, bait a few deer and run that heater all winter.

 

[Cowboy254]

You had me interested for a moment .

Whatever you end up doing...

 

[unclemoustache]

I was thinking pellet stove before I even got so far as to hear you suggest it as well. Very little mess to deal with, very simple to operate, puts out good heat. Go for it.

 

[unclemoustache]

Oh yes - and there is help for you on that other matter......

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[NSMaple1]

I think I have heard that is not permitted by code? Maybe also not insurable.

 

[SamT1]

No codes here. I can add a carbon monoxide detector to the room if needed.

A friend of mine had a pellet stove in his shop that was just vented out the wall like a dryer kinda. Is that right? Do you even need anything under it? You’d think since it’s all contained I wouldn’t need any tile or anything under it. Floor is hard wood.

 

[muddstopper]

Budget dictates a lot of what I do. Sounds like to me the wood stove you already have is putting out enough heat to make parts of the house to hot, while being cold in other rooms. Instead of tearing down walls, unless its something you want to do anyways, I would suggest installing some duct work from the current wood stove area, to the rooms you need extra heat. You can install a induct fan and connect it to a thermostat to come on and off for the desired temp. Havet he fan draw air out of the room you need more heat and blow it out into the room with the stove. Duct fan will pull the warm air out heated space toward the unheated space, without causing a breeze. The colder air is exhausted near the wood stove where it is heated before being pulled to the other rooms. This also works for evening out the AC in the summer and makes the whole house more evenly heated or cooled. Its also a lot cheaper than installing a chimney and second stove. If you have a basement or crawl space, it very easy to run the needed duct work, if you have a slab house, you can still run it thru the attic.

 

[Short timer]

My house is a ranch with the wood stove at the far end of one side and we heat strictly with wood. I installed a vent in the ceiling with the stove, ran flex duct to an in-line fan that’s controlled by a rheostat, installed a register half way through the house and one in the coldest bedroom. Works out great. It went from not being able to be in the room with the stove cranking on a real cold day to the whole house being within a couple degrees from coldest to warmest rooms. I’ve had this setup like this for probably around 8 years.


Room with stove, vent in ceiling.



In-line fan with insulated ducting.


rheostat switch to control the speed.



One of two registers. The doorway you see in the background is the room with the wood stove. 2nd register is in the furthest bedroom. Everyone sleeps with the doors open so it works out well.

 

[NSMaple1]

No codes here. I can add a carbon monoxide detector to the room if needed.

A friend of mine had a pellet stove in his shop that was just vented out the wall like a dryer kinda. Is that right? Do you even need anything under it? You’d think since it’s all contained I wouldn’t need any tile or anything under it. Floor is hard wood.

I think I would call up my insurance person and tell him exactly what you are wanting to do and make sure they will still insure you. And get the answer in writing.

Unless you don't have or want to have insurance, in which case that wouldn't matter.

 

[muddstopper]

My house is a ranch with the wood stove at the far end of one side and we heat strictly with wood. I installed a vent in the ceiling with the stove, ran flex duct to an in-line fan that’s controlled by a rheostat, installed a register half way through the house and one in the coldest bedroom. Works out great. It went from not being able to be in the room with the stove cranking on a real cold day to the whole house being within a couple degrees from coldest to warmest rooms. I’ve had this setup like this for probably around 8 years.


Room with stove, vent in ceiling.
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In-line fan with insulated ducting.
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rheostat switch to control the speed.

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One of two registers. The doorway you see in the background is the room with the wood stove. 2nd register is in the furthest bedroom. Everyone sleeps with the doors open so it works out well.
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Do you have the fans pulling hot air from the room with the stove and blowing into the other rooms, or are you pulling air from the colder rooms and blowing it into the room with the stove. Also, do you just run the duct fan as on and off manually and control speed with the rheostat. Do you also use the ceiling duct and fan to help keep the AC circulated.

My plans for my new house includes separate duct lines to the two bedrooms at the opposite end of house from stove. Using a thermostat instead of a rheostat will allow me to turn off the fan in one room I am not using, yet still keep the room at a set temp without having to worry about did I turn the fan on or off.

 

[SamT1]

My house is a ranch with the wood stove at the far end of one side and we heat strictly with wood. I installed a vent in the ceiling with the stove, ran flex duct to an in-line fan that’s controlled by a rheostat, installed a register half way through the house and one in the coldest bedroom. Works out great. It went from not being able to be in the room with the stove cranking on a real cold day to the whole house being within a couple degrees from coldest to warmest rooms. I’ve had this setup like this for probably around 8 years.


Room with stove, vent in ceiling.
View attachment 781599


In-line fan with insulated ducting.
View attachment 781600

rheostat switch to control the speed.

View attachment 781602

One of two registers. The doorway you see in the background is the room with the wood stove. 2nd register is in the furthest bedroom. Everyone sleeps with the doors open so it works out well.
View attachment 781603

I’d love to do this, but the addition with stove has a high arched ceiling with no access without removing the drywall. I have thought about cannibalising the AC vents to distribute the heat for me. I guess I could hook them up to circulate in winter and unhook in summer and hook back to AC.
I’m going to have insulation sprayed on the bottom of the hardwood subfloor (only floor) here in a couple weeks. So maybe that will make enough difference that I don’t need anything more than to circulate.
I think the walls and ceiling are insulated great. I have put new windows in 2 rooms so far and saw no change unfortunately. Kinda odd going from a 1970 window to a new Energy star gas filled whatever window. But hey at least they open now.

 

[SamT1]

I think I would call up my insurance person and tell him exactly what you are wanting to do and make sure they will still insure you. And get the answer in writing.

Unless you don't have or want to have insurance, in which case that wouldn't matter.

I have the paperwork on my policy. I’ll just read through it. They know I have one insert already.
I can’t have picky insurance, I’m not in town and we just have a volunteer fire Dept there so it weeds out companies pretty fast.

Id like one good hail storm to put a metal roof on and a few years to pay off and I won’t need insurance.

 

[SamT1]

Budget dictates a lot of what I do. Sounds like to me the wood stove you already have is putting out enough heat to make parts of the house to hot, while being cold in other rooms. Instead of tearing down walls, unless its something you want to do anyways, I would suggest installing some duct work from the current wood stove area, to the rooms you need extra heat. You can install a induct fan and connect it to a thermostat to come on and off for the desired temp. Havet he fan draw air out of the room you need more heat and blow it out into the room with the stove. Duct fan will pull the warm air out heated space toward the unheated space, without causing a breeze. The colder air is exhausted near the wood stove where it is heated before being pulled to the other rooms. This also works for evening out the AC in the summer and makes the whole house more evenly heated or cooled. Its also a lot cheaper than installing a chimney and second stove. If you have a basement or crawl space, it very easy to run the needed duct work, if you have a slab house, you can still run it thru the attic.

cold part has a crawl space. Warm is slab. Walls are coming down for sure, need to open it up.

 

[muddstopper]

cold part has a crawl space. Warm is slab. Walls are coming down for sure, need to open it up.

Did you read this post. Put the duct work and fan in the attic, it will work.

My house is a ranch with the wood stove at the far end of one side and we heat strictly with wood. I installed a vent in the ceiling with the stove, ran flex duct to an in-line fan that’s controlled by a rheostat, installed a register half way through the house and one in the coldest bedroom. Works out great. It went from not being able to be in the room with the stove cranking on a real cold day to the whole house being within a couple degrees from coldest to warmest rooms. I’ve had this setup like this for probably around 8 years.


Room with stove, vent in ceiling.
View attachment 781599


In-line fan with insulated ducting.
View attachment 781600

rheostat switch to control the speed.

View attachment 781602

One of two registers. The doorway you see in the background is the room with the wood stove. 2nd register is in the furthest bedroom. Everyone sleeps with the doors open so it works out well.
View attachment 781603

 

[Short timer]

Do you have the fans pulling hot air from the room with the stove and blowing into the other rooms, or are you pulling air from the colder rooms and blowing it into the room with the stove.

I’m pulling the hot air from the room with the stove and moving it to the colder parts of the house. My thinking was along the lines of a traditional forced hot air heating system. I’m not sure if all this is right or wrong, but it works. I could comfortably sit in the room with the stove when it’s cranking and not be sweating like before, and the rest of the house isn’t far off the temperature of the room with the wood stove.


Prior to this setup, I would move the cold air towards the room with the stove via a floor fan, because cold air is easier to move than hot.

Also, do you just run the duct fan as on and off manually and control speed with the rheostat.

Yes, when the stove is lit, which is pretty much non stop from November till April, that fan is running. I control the speed to match how hot I’m running the stove. The amount of air being moved was more important to me than a thermostatically controlled switch. I control the temperature of the house with the stove, not by the fan coming on and off, if that makes any sense.

Do you also use the ceiling duct and fan to help keep the AC circulated.

No, I never even thought of doing this. I have central A/C, do you think it would help any?

 

[Short timer]

cold part has a crawl space. Warm is slab.

This doesn’t rule out the possibility of going through the crawl space, but if I were you, I would suck the hot air from high in that cathedral ceiling that’s being wasted like I describe below.

I’d love to do this, but the addition with stove has a high arched ceiling with no access without removing the drywall.

If you post pictures, we could probably figure out a way unless you have your heart set on putting a second stove in the bedroom. I put on a kitchen addition with a cathedral ceiling. This picture shows the wall where it attaches to the original roof, which is perpendicular to that wall. The addition turned the ranch into a “T” if that makes sense. If my stove was in this room I could cut a vent up high, run flex duct into existing attic of the original house. (I would have to access that wall through the attic and through the old roof which is dead space, right now I don’t see that wall if I go in the attic). If your addition was put on the end of the existing house (in-line and not perpendicular), it would be even easier. What I’m getting at is, one of the walls of your addition is accessible through the existing attic, whether it is now or not, and one of the walls has to look like that area of the picture I posted if the rest of the house isn’t cathedral ceilings. If there’s a will, there’s a way.

 

[babybart]

No codes here. I can add a carbon monoxide detector to the room if needed.

A friend of mine had a pellet stove in his shop that was just vented out the wall like a dryer kinda. Is that right? Do you even need anything under it? You’d think since it’s all contained I wouldn’t need any tile or anything under it. Floor is hard wood.

It can vent straight out the back of the stove but you mat have to add double wall pipe to raise it once it is outside. They need a non-combustible base that is a couple inches high. You can buy one or just make one.

 

[SamT1]

Here’s what I’m dealing with.


I think it’s 40x25. This morning it’s 72 on the far wall and probably 75 by the insert. 26 outside. Unit for the rest of the house is on 67. And running a lot.

It’s usually warmer, but I’m just burning junk wood. I stuck a unknown species on about midnight that was one big chunk 24 long, 16 diameter split in half. It’s not burning very good. I don’t have anything small inside to pep it up, but chunked a large split of mulberry in it when I got up.

It’s probably noteworthy that when is below freezing and I’m burning random wood from tree jobs and not getting up to feed the fire, putting “all nighters” in it pretty much exclusively. I don’t think the stove could heat more than 1500sqft to 70 even if it was just one big room. I’m confident i can get the whole 2500 out of it if I try a little harder and can get wife to feed it during the day.

 

[Short timer]

Here’s what I’m dealing with.
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I think it’s 40x25. This morning it’s 72 on the far wall and probably 75 by the insert. 26 outside. Unit for the rest of the house is on 67. And running a lot.

It’s usually warmer, but I’m just burning junk wood. I stuck a unknown species on about midnight that was one big chunk 24 long, 16 diameter split in half. It’s not burning very good. I don’t have anything small inside to pep it up, but chunked a large split of mulberry in it when I got up.

It’s probably noteworthy that when is below freezing and I’m burning random wood from tree jobs and not getting up to feed the fire, putting “all nighters” in it pretty much exclusively. I don’t think the stove could heat more than 1500sqft to 70 even if it was just one big room. I’m confident i can get the whole 2500 out of it if I try a little harder and can get wife to feed it during the day.

Is that wall the existing house or another exterior wall? What is that a closet and why does it step up?

 

[SamT1]

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Is that wall the existing house or another exterior wall? What is that a closet and why does it step up?

That’s the wall we are going to take out. Kitchen is on the other side of it. The closet looking room there is a formal dining room. It’s bigger than it looks. 10x26. We are going to take it in on one end to make a pantry.

the closet looking room has huge return air vents. I have them 3/4 blocked so it pulls out of the hall by the bedrooms. That fixed my heater /AC distribution issue I had before.

there is easy access to the wall in the addition opposite the fireplace, but I’d assume it’s a lot farther than optimal.