Tell us about things that annoy you on the job site

[WmTreeCo.]

So when you're climbing or up in the bucket, you hit your chain brake every time you shut off your saw? Or do you start a saw with the chain in a place where you may get cut if the brake isn't on? If you have to have the brake on every time you start a saw, you should seriously re-evaluate how you are starting saws because there should never be a time where you have a chance to have an accident because your brake isn't on. If you have an accident because your brake wasn't on while starting a saw.....the problem is you.

I'll admit, my post was a bit tongue in cheek in response to your pet peeves about chain brakes. But....

You shouldn't assume I'm useless because I do things differently than you, and in return I won't assume your a hack that has no insight into current safety protocols taught by all trainers within the industry.

Telling another grown man how to run his own power saw is low on my list of things to do, but on my site with my saws, chain brake is on at all times when not cutting wood. It's second nature to those who were taught it from the start.

If you can handle a saw, it's not an issue, but I've seen greenhorns drop and mishandle saws when starting them. I've seen veterans do the same in wet/icy conditions. Throw a spinning chain into that mix and there could be injuries.

 

[Rabid K9]

I'll admit, my post was a bit tongue in cheek in response to your pet peeves about chain brakes. But....

You shouldn't assume I'm useless because I do things differently than you, and in return I won't assume your a hack that has no insight into current safety protocols taught by all trainers within the industry.

Telling another grown man how to run his own power saw is low on my list of things to do, but on my site with my saws, chain brake is on at all times when not cutting wood. It's second nature to those who were taught it from the start.

If you can handle a saw, it's not an issue, but I've seen greenhorns drop and mishandle saws when starting them. I've seen veterans do the same in wet/icy conditions. Throw a spinning chain into that mix and there could be injuries.

Chain brakes were a pretty decent step forward in chainsaw safety, not sure why you wouldn't make use of them.

Know of far too many incidents with experienced operators.

 

[Rabid K9]

Smoking!!

 

[lone wolf]

Smoking!!

Private phone calls and stopping work when real busy. They could use the phone when there is a lull.

 

[WmTreeCo.]

Chain brakes were a pretty decent step forward in chainsaw safety, not sure why you wouldn't make use of them.

Know of far too many incidents with experienced operators.

I was explaining that I do make use of the brake at all times. Only time it comes off is to make a cut.

 

[mikewhite85]

When I was in CA a couple of my guys used to smoke weed in the truck and though that that somehow the smell wouldn't give them away!

Cleaning up dog poop.

Workers not getting along is a huge morale killer. One guy can ruin your crew.

Customers expecting "add-ons" for free.

When it takes forever to receive payment.

 

[lone wolf]

When I was in CA a couple of my guys used to smoke weed in the truck and though that that somehow the smell wouldn't give them away!

Cleaning up dog poop.

Workers not getting along is a huge morale killer. One guy can ruin your crew.

Customers expecting "add-ons" for free.

When it takes forever to receive payment.

Ahh the , "can you just cut one more branch" which turns into one more on multiple Trees!

 

[southpaw]

This is a good thread so homeowners can be a little more respectful to the guy who is trying to run a business
It is also an eye opener for the workers to do things a little different too, their jobs may depend on it

 

[lone wolf]

This is a good thread so homeowners can be a little more respectful to the guy who is trying to run a business
It is also an eye opener for the workers to do things a little different too, their jobs may depend on it

Alright how about asking for a sandwich when a homeowner offers a drink. I can do this all day.

 

[mike515]

I'll admit, my post was a bit tongue in cheek in response to your pet peeves about chain brakes. But....

You shouldn't assume I'm useless because I do things differently than you, and in return I won't assume your a hack that has no insight into current safety protocols taught by all trainers within the industry.

Telling another grown man how to run his own power saw is low on my list of things to do, but on my site with my saws, chain brake is on at all times when not cutting wood. It's second nature to those who were taught it from the start.

If you can handle a saw, it's not an issue, but I've seen greenhorns drop and mishandle saws when starting them. I've seen veterans do the same in wet/icy conditions. Throw a spinning chain into that mix and there could be injuries.

Let's just go with what I actually said....which should be pretty easy since you quoted it. I said that if the way someone starts a saw would cause an accident if the brake was off, they need to re-evaluate how they are starting a saw. I stand by that 100%. If someone forgets to set the brake and someone else picks up the saw and cuts themselves because the brake wasn't set....they are doing it wrong and I'm not afraid to tell anyone that. So take that to all your industry trainers and try to get them to explain how I'm wrong.

 

[lone wolf]

Let's just go with what I actually said....which should be pretty easy since you quoted it. I said that if the way someone starts a saw would cause an accident if the brake was off, they need to re-evaluate how they are starting a saw. I stand by that 100%. If someone forgets to set the brake and someone else picks up the saw and cuts themselves because the brake wasn't set....they are doing it wrong and I'm not afraid to tell anyone that. So take that to all your industry trainers and try to get them to explain how I'm wrong.

It as simple as this ,the operator should be aware of the chain brake. Meaning the person who picks it up should put the brake where he wants it .

 

[Philbert]

How about people like us who ask if we can have some of the wood?

Philbert

 

[lone wolf]

How about people like us who ask if we can have some of the wood?

Philbert

That's not highly offensive. When I'm short of help it has been welcomed. There has been days I would have paid them to take it.

 

[mike515]

How about people like us who ask if we can have some of the wood?

Philbert

You can have all of the wood as far as I'm concerned! I even give people a discount if we don't have to haul logs or chip brush, etc. But we don't sell wood so it might be different if we did.

 

[lone wolf]

You can have all of the wood as far as I'm concerned! I even give people a discount if we don't have to haul logs or chip brush, etc. But we don't sell wood so it might be different if we did.

Especially when its 100 degrees out.

 

[WmTreeCo.]

Let's just go with what I actually said....which should be pretty easy since you quoted it. I said that if the way someone starts a saw would cause an accident if the brake was off, they need to re-evaluate how they are starting a saw. I stand by that 100%. If someone forgets to set the brake and someone else picks up the saw and cuts themselves because the brake wasn't set....they are doing it wrong and I'm not afraid to tell anyone that. So take that to all your industry trainers and try to get them to explain how I'm wrong.

No one's telling you you're wrong and no one's telling you what to do. Maybe you should add 'people who do things differently than me' to your original list.

 

[Del_]

The whole premise of putting blame on the last user for not putting the chain brake on is absurd.

It's not the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it is in the running.

 

[Philbert]

When I'm short of help it has been welcomed.

You can have all of the wood as far as I'm concerned!

I have received some annoyed looks . . .

Philbert

 

[southpaw]

I have received some annoyed looks . . .

Philbert

These guys are doing some intense work and you just may have came along at the wrong time that's all
Their focus is not getting hurt or causing property damage so any distraction from their work could get you a mean mug , especially if things are going goofy that day
Good of you to ask that question here , shows you have respect for what they do .........waiting till they are on lunch would probably be best time to ask

 

[Harmon]

New guys. Especially ones with one season doing something vaguely related, like "I was on fire crew last season down in Oregon" and now they know everything about commercial / residential tree service